Nissan's On The Hunt For Grey Importers

[Iron Chef]

If the original email is "intelligence", does this thread count as "counter-intelligence"?

Assuming it's real, what a foolish thing to type - methinks someone forgot how the internet works...

[Duncan]

nismo tiida eh? does it come with that s1uty grandmother from sex in the city?

[funkymonkey]

nismo tiida eh? does it come with that s1uty grandmother from sex in the city?

shhh we don't want colin gathering intelligence on Samantha.... mmm samantha... oh the things i'd do to your cosmetically altered body.

[SS8_Gohan]

does anyone else work at Nissan who can confirm is this email is actually real or not?

[DECIM8]

Simple, if its imported in 2008 and early 2009 then nissan Oz have no ability to stop the import of the GTR, we have to import it when it is NOT avaliable in Oz ... hopefully its a flop in OZ and we can import v specs and so on in jap standards.

[R338OY]

does anyone else work at Nissan who can confirm is this email is actually real or not?

I doubt we'll ever know.

[700HP-GTR33]

nismo tiida eh? does it come with that s1uty grandmother from sex in the city?

She says it takes along time to learn how to get the suction right.

Oh Samantha....I wish you were here...

[carizma]

this doesn't look like Nissan Australia's preparing for a flop of this car:

http://nissan.com.au/GT%2DR/

Just to clarify, if it's imported within the 18 month window, it's game over for SEVS....

personal import anyone?

Simple, if its imported in 2008 and early 2009 then nissan Oz have no ability to stop the import of the GTR, we have to import it when it is NOT avaliable in Oz ... hopefully its a flop in OZ and we can import v specs and so on in jap standards.

[Angus Smart]

[Ant97GTR]

Colin better be on the case

http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/motoring...strikes_nissan/

[DRD-00F]

Nissan Australia is facing a potentially unwinnable battle to keep low-volume importers from beating them to the market with the stunning R36 GT-R.

I say they deal with the R35 first

[sewid]

Nissan Australia is facing a potentially unwinnable battle to keep low-volume importers from beating them to the market with the stunning R36 GT-R.

I say they deal with the R35 first

Yeah read that in the paper. Bunch of ass clowns that is Australian motor journalism!

[Sydneykid]

I like this bit;

“Customers need to be aware they need to buy a Nissan GT-R from Nissan Australia. It is the only way they will get a full warranty and full service support from Nissan,” the spokesman says.

So Nissan doesn't support it's own cars? These are not copy Nissans, made by someone else. They aren't made in different factories. They aren't made by different people. They are REAL Nissans after all. This guy is inferring that Nissan sells INFERIOR cars in Japan than what Nissan Australia do. Not exceptionally clever that.

Wake up Nissan, there is a chance here for your dealers to make some money. What they lose out on by not selling the new car, they can make back in service and spares. Whoever your accountant is he/she needs to go back to the basics of making money, more sales with the same costs = more profit.

On the same subject, start selling V36 Skylines. The GTR can then be their hero car. Bring it in on its own and it's an orphan, no hero status to attract extra sales. How many extra Tiidas are you going sell because you have a GTR in the showroom? Hint, the answer is somewhere between zero and none.

Cheers

Gary

[Ant97GTR]

Yep couldn't agree more Gary.....considering that dealers/car manufacturers make more money off servicing and spare parts why would they refuse to service a non ozzie delivered car??

Me thinks sour grapes

[sic200]

Lack of experience, I'd say.

They probably don't get too many questions about Maximas and Tiidas aside from, "What colours does it come in?", "What's on the option's list?" and "Have you got anything more boring to drive?" so they're not used to questions from people shopping for a car rather than an appliance.

the sad part is, they can't even tell you what colours it comes in... i can't understand why its gonna be so f**kin expensive over here.. its 7.5 million yen there, call it 80 grand.. how the hell does sticking it on a boat, taxes and make it meet adr standards cost another 80 grand? i think nissan oz are being greedy, if nissan japan can sell it to anyone for 7.5million, i'm sure nissan oz would be getting a much cheaper price. collin buckley, your a clown, i hope grey importers flood the market with 35's

[Mr Eps]

dear me what a mess... i hate car dealers they know nothing about cars, NOTHING! they honestly don't care!

EDIT please note my member status haha

Edited March 28, 2008 by Mr Eps

[scathing]

the sad part is, they can't even tell you what colours it comes in...

Its OK. The colour charts are stuck on the wall. They can just point and grunt, which may be all some of those salespeople can do.

[scathing]

So Nissan doesn't support it's own cars? These are not copy Nissans, made by someone else. They aren't made in different factories. They aren't made by different people. They are REAL Nissans after all. This guy is inferring that Nissan sells INFERIOR cars in Japan than what Nissan Australia do.

No, Nissan Australia does not support cars that are not its own.

There will be a range of differences between the two cars (notwithstanding the language barrier on the menus and the ECU tune, at the very least) and Nissan can't partially support a car while adhering to its "service" levels (and I use the word "service" lightly). So rather than providing "best effort" support on the things that aren't on their local models, they make a decision to not support any of it. Its not uncommon practice for any OEM. They have channel partners who invest in each other to deliver the car from factory to customer, and supporting a vehicle bought outside the channel is back-stabbing people who've given you money.

There is no inference that Nissan Japan sells inferior cars to what Nissan Australia will be obtaining either. The inference on superiority is in the assurance on the product as it is delivered. Nissan Australia cannot guarantee that the vehicle was not damaged in transit, which they have to do on their own vehicles.

When a customer buys a vehicle that was damaged in transit, they expect it to be fixed under warranty. If its a Nissan Australia vehicle, then it gets done. If its a grey import, they'd refuse....but if Nissan Australia had already supported this grey import R35 prior (especially for a different warranty claim), they will inevitably have an argument over why they're not covering it in this instance.

You'd think it was cut-and-dried that its nothing to do with Nissan Australia and therefore not their responsibility, but having worked in warranty support for an IT company I know that people will buy stuff from the dodgiest of places where it got damaged rather than failed due to manufacturing, and expect the OEM to cover it anyway.

Its about covering your own arse while setting customer expectations. I don't like it, but having been on the other side I see why they do it.

** EDITED FOR CLARITY **

Edited March 28, 2008 by scathing

[SS8_Gohan]

but Nissan Australia has already supported the grey import in the past (especially for a warranty claim), they will inevitably have an argument over why they're not in this instance.

really??

[scathing]

There was meant to be an "if" between "but" and "Nissan".

I'll edit the post.