Guilt-Toy Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Is this true that the new versions from Japan allow you to make away with the air flow meter? I am sick to death of air flow meters. fuel cut defenders etc etc. Has anyone got one of these units yet? was it hard to install? how much did you pay for it ? where did you get it from? How much better is the map sensor version compared to the air flow meter version ? How much power did you get from the upgrade ?? what is the new version called? so I can be sure I am getting the right version ?? This is for a R33 GTST (RB25DET Series II) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
T88 ON BOARD Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Yeh i have the New Power FC Pro on my GTR R32 It eliminates the use of Air flow meters etc...It uses 2 map sensors for my car... I got it done at Croydon Racing Developments But the wait on the Power FC PRO is really bad...I waiting about 4 months for my computer to arrive... It also gives u 2 new functions which are : Ignition cut for rpm limiter and Launch Control hope that helps Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-506475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 REALLY. thats sweet. i want one. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-506789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parag0n Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 how much did that set you back T88 ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-506882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVL R33 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 T88, I'm running a PFC Pro in my Gtr as well, it was new when I got it beginning of this year... How do I know if I can get rid of the AFM's?? Cheers Brett Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-507066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T88 ON BOARD Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 i think it was $3,000 including dyno tune and fitting...But i think i got a discount because it wasn't the 1st time i was there.... EVL R33- Well apparently you can use AFM with this computer...But Because i have a T88 the worst thing you can do is put 2 AFM in front of it.... The Power FC PRO was designed for drag racing..So it allows you to run to Map sensors im using the (3bar map sensors) I dont really think they made all different kinds of Power FC's only he normal one and the PRO...So if you have the PRO version im guessing you dont need the AFM aslong as you get Map sensors... Hope that helped... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-507107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVL R33 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Cheers, Will look into it further. Brett Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-507225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 How hard is it to install the map sensor: I have the power fc pro on an r33 gts-t and a hate afm's too. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewid Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 For most people keeping the AFM is not an issue. You have to be making a load more horesepower than most of the cars on this forum before an AFM (Z32 or Q45) is holding you back. Of course the stock R33 AFM is supposed to be quite crap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dojobi Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Before you race out and buy the Pro version, just check up what the different versions do. The reason I'm saying this is because I'm 95% sure that the Pro won't do what you want. From memory, the Pro version just adds a rev holding point when your not moving (for taking off at the drags) and a different way of rev limiting (ignition cut I think). The one you're after is the D Jetro version. I don't think you can get a Pro version of the D Jetro. Anyway, do a bit of a read yourself, as I'm not totally sure of what I wrote above. Cheers, Michael EDIT: Took out possibly misleading info Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 The pro version does do lauch control which is more than just the rev limit, it also builds up boost so you can launch with waiting for your turbo to spool up Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dojobi Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 How does it do that without any load? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalR33 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I dont know exactly: I think it does something to the timing and fuel to put the engine under load without moving. I guess it does what all the other launch control systems do (they all build boost up). I know for a fact that it does, I do it every day in my car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Yeah the Pro has launch control and ignition cut rather than fuel cut, thats the only differences between the power fc and power fc pro. You must run AFM's with both these models. The Power FC D-Jetro allows you to throw away the afm's and run map sensors. Or so I was told when I was looking at getting a PFC Pro... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 usually off load boost generation is done by cutting spark to individual cylinders in a non repetitive fashion, so the unburnt fuel ignites in the exhaust manifold and runs up the turbo rpm. Is a feature on some rally cars. Sometimes they just put an injector into the manifold and you get flames :flamed: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-634761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz0r$harP.UK Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 have a look at the greenline catalogue it explains the various types of PowerFC pretty well. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-635250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABuSD Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 i saw on nengun has these babies for like $1050 AUD Can this be true!?!?! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-635262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRman1992 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 AFM give more precise control. You would have to be sure your making too much power before getting rid of them. The 80mm Z AFM's are huge ! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/23627-apexi-pfc-bye-bye-air-flow-meter/#findComment-635309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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