Who Has Their Car Tuned By Guilt-toy ?

[dori34]

i've been looking up guilt-toys tuning progress and from what i can see, the man can do some amazing things with tuning.

what i want to know is has anyone on sau got him to tune your car - if so, what car, mods & ecu do you have & what was the output (hp/kw/torque/afr)? how long has the tune been going for, was there any dramas initially & any dramas months later?

is the tune still going good say 6months later?

so any personal experience with his tunes & experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

[Swiper the Fox]

i've been looking up guilt-toys tuning progress and from what i can see, the man can do some amazing things with tuning.

what i want to know is has anyone on sau got him to tune your car - if so, what car, mods & ecu do you have & what was the output (hp/kw/torque/afr)? how long has the tune been going for, was there any dramas initially & any dramas months later?

is the tune still going good say 6months later?

so any personal experience with his tunes & experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

id have no dramas with him tuning my car.

[dori34]

id have no dramas with him tuning my car.

did he tune twoogl or was it another car?

[R31Nismoid]

He said he wouldnt have any problems, not he has...

Either/or his results speak for themselves with the threads from him.

[Swiper the Fox]

did he tune twoogl or was it another car?

nah hasn't tuned any of my cars...he's a more than competant tuner...actually better than some of the $800-$1000 tuners at the big flashy workshops. Ive told him on more than 1 occasion to double his price for his tuning...because he's worth it. Ive assisted him on a few cars and yes he's quite good.

[dori34]

He said he wouldnt have any problems, not he has...

Either/or his results speak for themselves with the threads from him.

haha oops, my bad for misreading that.

nah hasn't tuned any of my cars...he's a more than competant tuner...actually better than some of the $800-$1000 tuners at the big flashy workshops. Ive told him on more than 1 occasion to double his price for his tuning...because he's worth it. Ive assisted him on a few cars and yes he's quite good.

thanks for the input mate, so far with his pricing & tuning abilities, he is #1 on my list. Just waiting for him to pop on msn so i can speak to him directly.

[DRD-00F]

he tuned my car

first was just a road tune without a dyno, so basically guess work... When we went and put more boost in it, we checked the AFRs on the dyno and they were pretty much perfect...

put a little more boost in, and now it runs 200kw (standard turbo) at the rears on 12psi i think

[dori34]

he tuned my car

first was just a road tune without a dyno, so basically guess work... When we went and put more boost in it, we checked the AFRs on the dyno and they were pretty much perfect...

put a little more boost in, and now it runs 200kw (standard turbo) at the rears on 12psi i think

hey mate, what ecu you got? that is a good power output for a standard turbo.

how long has the tune last so far? no dramas till this day?

for mine, its gonna have to be mine done on a dyno as it can't be driven to do a street tune lol

[old mate]

where is he based? ive got problems giving my car to tuners?

[dori34]

he is in syd & newcastle.

[SECURITY]

pm sent

[Adriano]

i think you are a bit confused, a tune doesnt last a certain time, its not like it wears out. I wouldnt have any problems with gt tuning my car, if i wasnt tuning it myself.

[dori34]

pm sent

i didnt get anything?

i think you are a bit confused, a tune doesnt last a certain time, its not like it wears out. I wouldnt have any problems with gt tuning my car, if i wasnt tuning it myself.

no im not confused, cause i know some of my friends cars who come back from tuners all good and all until a few months later, somehow the car is running rough again which requires it to be retuned then its back to normal - possibly a dodgey tune?

ive sent guilt-toy a pm, so hopefully he can answer a few of my questions then all is good

[PM-R33]

Only thing that affects tunes in a few months is climate change. Going for a tune in winter to summer will change how the car behaves. Cold start is usually the most affected thing. However if the tune is done well, it shouldn't be something that needs retuning in different seasons unless your pushing your car harder in winter, ie more timing.

[MBS206]

Only thing that affects tunes in a few months is climate change. Going for a tune in winter to summer will change how the car behaves. Cold start is usually the most affected thing. However if the tune is done well, it shouldn't be something that needs retuning in different seasons unless your pushing your car harder in winter, ie more timing.

The only thing that affects tunes, is if the car isn't tuned 100%.

IE, it's not just about setting up your fuel and ignition maps, you need to adjust trim over different temperatures etc.

Obviously, on an AFM car, if tuned in summer, when driving in winter you will hit certain points on the map that are untuned, as you can draw in more cold air and get to different load cells.

Hence, it's all about getting a competent tuner.

Not sure how GT does his, as I haven't spoken to him, and for this reason, I couldn't just turn my car over to him. BUT, in saying that, give me half an hour of his time, and my arsenal of queries and questions, and I'm sure he'd have my car keys in one hand and driving off... As it is, I plan to query him on setting up an ignition map soon.

[Guilt-Toy]

after a few issues with people I would rather not deal with I have decided that there will be no more tuning or help available in my spare time.

I have had enough, close friends or previously tuned cars only from now on I am affraid.

Hate to let the f**kwits spoil it, but i have realised that there is no point tuning cars for peanuts anymore.

sorry

[Swiper the Fox]

after a few issues with people I would rather not deal with I have decided that there will be no more tuning or help available in my spare time.

I have had enough, close friends or previously tuned cars only from now on I am affraid.

Hate to let the f**kwits spoil it, but i have realised that there is no point tuning cars for peanuts anymore.

sorry

risking your reputation when people bring cars to you not up to scratch is an unfortunate part of the tuning game. When something goes wrong with their car thats totally unrelated to the tune and blames you for it.

see this thread as an example...

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Tu...wn-t253002.html

i understand why your ceasing to help people.

[Guilt-Toy]

risking your reputation when people bring cars to you not up to scratch is an unfortunate part of the tuning game. When something goes wrong with their car thats totally unrelated to the tune and blames you for it.

see this thread as an example...

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Tu...wn-t253002.html

i understand why your ceasing to help people.

yeah for me it was just a hobby and what i do for fun in my spare time to help people out, hence the cheap rates, but when the dickheads started to flow in it put a bad taste in my mouth and i would rather not deal with it anymore.

Dori34 if you buy a Vipec and need that sorted out then let me know otherwise sorry to say I aint really too keen to do it anymore.

I knew this was going to happen sooner or later, ive seen my mates go through the same thing and they gave me plenty of warning so thats why I aint loosing any sleep over it.

Have a look at this thread,

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ro...d+tune+power+fc

I first started tuning 5 years ago and I managed to achieve what I wanted to do and that is to be able to do all my own tuning and performance work to save money on expensive tuner rates... So yeah from now on its all about me

I will chat to you about it on msn.

[Fastrotor]

I get this alot myself, its an unfortunate side of it . Charging peanuts is usually the problem. People treat you different if you are super cheap, they treat you just like your a mate helping out or something.... its weird, the less you charge , the more they expect and it attracts all the cheap arse idiots who dont have a clue (and think they do!). I learned this early on.

Charge appropriately, and learn to say no if something is not up to scratch. And if they get the shits, then you dont want to deal with them anyway.

As most decent people would know, if something costs you alot, you initially might cringe, however if you are happy with the result, then you soon forget the cost and are left with a smile that lasts alot longer than a cost saving initially.

Confidence to charge appropriately is hard at first, depending on your personality, but you just have to get to that place where you do, else you get to the point where you are now and just throw it all away.

I truly believe there is a niche for the backyard 'techo' guys to do work and tuning, as some guys like the personal service they get,dealing direct with someone rather than a workshop where there is usually not that friendly atmosphere where they feel more comfortable.

Assuming your real good at what you do and take pride in your reputation (this alone will mean you go out of your way to do it right etc). They will keep coming back.... and word of mouth works well.

Saying no will offend the idiots, and you might get a rep as abit arrogant, but then the idiots fade away and people who want quality generally will flow in...... takes a few years but it does work, at least for me.

Hope you may reconsider !

Gary

[Swiper the Fox]

I get this alot myself, its an unfortunate side of it . Charging peanuts is usually the problem. People treat you different if you are super cheap, they treat you just like your a mate helping out or something.... its weird, the less you charge , the more they expect and it attracts all the cheap arse idiots who dont have a clue (and think they do!). I learned this early on.

Charge appropriately, and learn to say no if something is not up to scratch. And if they get the shits, then you dont want to deal with them anyway.

As most decent people would know, if something costs you alot, you initially might cringe, however if you are happy with the result, then you soon forget the cost and are left with a smile that lasts alot longer than a cost saving initially.

Confidence to charge appropriately is hard at first, depending on your personality, but you just have to get to that place where you do, else you get to the point where you are now and just throw it all away.

I truly believe there is a niche for the backyard 'techo' guys to do work and tuning, as some guys like the personal service they get,dealing direct with someone rather than a workshop where there is usually not that friendly atmosphere where they feel more comfortable.

Assuming your real good at what you do and take pride in your reputation (this alone will mean you go out of your way to do it right etc). They will keep coming back.... and word of mouth works well.

Saying no will offend the idiots, and you might get a rep as abit arrogant, but then the idiots fade away and people who want quality generally will flow in...... takes a few years but it does work, at least for me.

Hope you may reconsider !

Gary

This is precisely what ive told him.

great post Gary.