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Hey guys, i just compared "factory spec" 0-60mph and 1/4mile from R32GTR, R33GTR, R34GTR and I am shocked, could you guys help me justify this please!!

R32GTR 1430kgs

0-60mph 4.7s

1/4mile 13.00

R33GTR 1530kgs

0-60mph 4.9s

1/4mile 14.00 at 104 mph

R34GTR 1540kgs

0-60mph 4.9s

1/4mile 13.7s at 103.5 mph

Results were found from http://www.infinitig35.net/R34/GTR/Specs/

I have always thought that the R34GTR is the fastest stock GTR excluding the R35 of course, but these specs shocked me hard, i own a 1993 R32GTR and always thought the r32gtr is the underdog, after seeing this... all i can say is wow.

Secondly, I would like to know if our skylines have a good chance of beating Holden commodore SS V8 (Stock Vs Stock)? some of them claim to have more than 270KW, however their factory 0-60mph is slower than 5s, could you guys help me clear this argument please.

cheers guys!

-long

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Hey guys, i just compared "factory spec" 0-60mph and 1/4mile from R32GTR, R33GTR, R34GTR and I am shocked, could you guys help me justify this please!!

R32GTR 1430kgs

0-60mph 4.7s

1/4mile 13.00

R33GTR 1530kgs

0-60mph 4.9s

1/4mile 14.00 at 104 mph

R34GTR 1540kgs

0-60mph 4.9s

1/4mile 13.7s at 103.5 mph

Results were found from http://www.infinitig35.net/R34/GTR/Specs/

I have always thought that the R34GTR is the fastest stock GTR excluding the R35 of course, but these specs shocked me hard, i own a 1993 R32GTR and always thought the r32gtr is the underdog, after seeing this... all i can say is wow.

Secondly, I would like to know if our skylines have a good chance of beating Holden commodore SS V8 (Stock Vs Stock)? some of them claim to have more than 270KW, however their factory 0-60mph is slower than 5s, could you guys help me clear this argument please.

cheers guys!

-long

Firstly, the '270kW' from the Holdens is NOT at the wheels. With small mods most SS's are at 220-230kW, only when they get a cam are they looking at 270kW+ ATW. Secondly, yeah the 32 GTR has always been the fastest. Not a huge surprise though, it just has a better power to weight ratio than the the 33/34.

Weight is a huge issue, think of reducing weight as adding power. Commodores weigh over 1800kg, not including passengers.

Stock v Stock the GTR will f**king eat commodores.

Thats a bit short sighted when you consider drive-train losses of an AWD vehicle not to mention the tremendous amount of torque the SS has. I reckon it would be very close over the quarter. Don't get me wrong the r32 was king in its day and would most definitely wipe the floor with VR and VS SS commodores but its 20 years old. 270kw and 530 NM of torque is nothing to sneeze at and as hard as it is to admit it holden has come a long way in its development of the VE.

I'd love to see a race around a track between the 2.

Thats a bit short sighted when you consider drive-train losses of an AWD vehicle not to mention the tremendous amount of torque the SS has. I reckon it would be very close over the quarter. Don't get me wrong the r32 was king in its day and would most definitely wipe the floor with VR and VS SS commodores but its 20 years old. 270kw and 530 NM of torque is nothing to sneeze at and as hard as it is to admit it holden has come a long way in its development of the VE.

I'd love to see a race around a track between the 2.

Well come on out to the NSW production car champs. There are standard commodores (300kw, 6.0l), evos, wrxs, falcon fpv, and my poor old 20yo gtr running around.

The GTR has not been beaten in a race it started (I only did the first 2 rounds). http://www.ctcnsw.com.au/reports.php

We have 6 rounds next year between Wakefield, Eastern Creek and Bathurst.

As for 32 v 33 v 34 stock for stock.....each of them made 206kw and the 32 was lighter. Sure the factory spec 32 is quicker. Of course there is very little stock (or even if stock not in good original condition) still getting around these days.

go spend 50+k on a new VE commo, v8 6L blah blah watever you want to make it to be.

Or take your 50+k and spend buy a clean r32 gtr. for say 20k.... and go spend the 30k u got left on it in mods..... than see who comes out on top..... No matter how many people like to put shit on the old r32 gtr, for them being old and gunner blow up the second you put your foot into them, for the money you can pick them up for these days.... They will Never be beaten... especially by a Aussie built peace of crap wearing a holden or ford badge.

my 2cent : D

Well come on out to the NSW production car champs. There are standard commodores (300kw, 6.0l), evos, wrxs, falcon fpv, and my poor old 20yo gtr running around.

The GTR has not been beaten in a race it started (I only did the first 2 rounds). http://www.ctcnsw.com.au/reports.php

We have 6 rounds next year between Wakefield, Eastern Creek and Bathurst.

As for 32 v 33 v 34 stock for stock.....each of them made 206kw and the 32 was lighter. Sure the factory spec 32 is quicker. Of course there is very little stock (or even if stock not in good original condition) still getting around these days.

Is yours stock Duncan?

go spend 50+k on a new VE commo, v8 6L blah blah watever you want to make it to be.

Or take your 50+k and spend buy a clean r32 gtr. for say 20k.... and go spend the 30k u got left on it in mods..... than see who comes out on top..... No matter how many people like to put shit on the old r32 gtr, for them being old and gunner blow up the second you put your foot into them, for the money you can pick them up for these days.... They will Never be beaten... especially by a Aussie built peace of crap wearing a holden or ford badge.

my 2cent : D

I believe this post started talking about a stock SS and a stock R32 GTR.

Stock vs stock i'd take the GTR.

Yes the new commodore's have more power and torque however they are also listed at 1700+ KG so 1800+ with driver. That means the power to weight ratio's are similar (6.94 GTR vs 6.3 SS). As the SS is RWD with a lot of torque, it will be much harder to get off the line and up to speed where as the 32 GTR can dial up 5K, sidestep the clutch and disapear without much of a fuss.

The SS will have a little bit more top end but it's got to have the right stretch of road or track to even utilise that advantage and then it will still have to pull back the gap the GTR has gained from getting off the line.

I had a wildly modified soarer in the past that made nearly 400rwkw and it would get slaughtered by GTR's all the time because it didn't have the room required to wind up. Mind you if it did get into 3rd gear on boost it'd be a different story, but it proved to me the point about having usable power.

Hey guys, what's going on in here?

OP: paper stats always fluctuate so they can only ever give you a ballpark to go by. Don't underestimate the SS Commodore...these cars get faster every model they release and the latest are no slugs. Remember that the GTR is always going to be a manual and consequently needs to be driven properly to obtain these 0-100 times, which will not be consistent for every run you do. SS Commodores for most part are auto and if you're taking on one in a drag, you will need something of a good launch because off the line is where the GTR is so fast. If you stuff this up or engage in a rolling drag, do not expect to win because you will run out of steam before the Commodore...particularly as 20 year old engines don't yield their factory power/torque anymore.

Hey guys, i just compared "factory spec" 0-60mph and 1/4mile from R32GTR, R33GTR, R34GTR and I am shocked, could you guys help me justify this please!!

R32GTR 1430kgs

0-60mph 4.7s

1/4mile 13.00

R33GTR 1530kgs

0-60mph 4.9s

1/4mile 14.00 at 104 mph

R34GTR 1540kgs

0-60mph 4.9s

1/4mile 13.7s at 103.5 mph

Results were found from http://www.infinitig35.net/R34/GTR/Specs/

start rant/ Those last 2 are pathetic quarter times, and just proves whoever did them has no idea how to drive, only the R32 time is meh ok, the rest are a joke. The 34 got less mile aswell what a joke. Going buy those figures a WRX should keep up and close are you kidding me!!!/end rant

And why are you getting your info for a car that was never sold to the yanks from a yank website, those guys are just shocking.

After being in Duncans production race car... Those SS commodores DON'T STAND A CHANCE!

The amount of grip the AWD gives when driven in aggression... You could take 50KW off the GTR and it'd still wipe the floor with the SS... The RWD vehicles just CAN'T put the power down to be useful in going uber fast!

I believe this post started talking about a stock SS and a stock R32 GTR.

i find it hard to do the whole VS thing when you car puting a 1989-1994mod, up against a 2009model car..... hows there even a VS?

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