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f**k tokyo is awesome!!! some random i met at 7\11 took me for a spin (180km/h weaving in and out of traffic in asukusa) in his R35 GTR!!! this place is so f**king awesome

I'm here too, although no random in an R35 has picked me up :P

you need to find that cricket, and put its head on a toothpick outside your room. that will learn em

haha send out a message to the others thinking of coming in.

Still havent found this fker. As soon as i start moving it shuts up.

got my mobile bill today and its a tasty $1,044.45

minimal call usage but over 150mb of data downladed on 31/12/09 (only time i do date connection is when i use google maps or log on to westpac to transfer cash which over the past 13 months i have done so have kepts my bills below $100)

so called em up spoke to some guy i couldnt understand so called again told them its bs guy said cant do anything about it cause its recorded. back and forth yelling for 30mins and not budging. mentioned ombudsman and suddenly he offered me 50% off my bill hahahaha. still told him not paying $500 for my mobile bill for somethign i have not used then some more back and forth yelling and ask for his supervisor. supervisor comes on he greats me and i say "just wanted to let you know im going to the ombudsman to solve this f**ked up shit". he went quite and said will call back by close of business with better news.

so atm I=WIN :huh:

nope. all they can see is how much and the charge. which is f**kign stupid but then again will be hard to record every download and page you went to. might be a privacy thing maybe???

but ye no way in hell im paying more then what i used. just went through my bill and it comes to $102 with GST if you exclude the data crap

funny thing is instead of resolving the issue they tried to up sell me to a higher plan and they kept doing it. so i stopped and listened and when they were done asked them if it will help me with my current bill? answer is NO. then why try and upgrade me? so it dosnt happen again. but it wotn happen again cause your f**kers f**ked up. oh rite lol

nope. all they can see is how much and the charge. which is f**kign stupid but then again will be hard to record every download and page you went to. might be a privacy thing maybe???

nah, server logs should have it - hard to rack up 150mb in a day, I struggle to get that much in a month

ye exactly what i thought.

oh well will wait tillt he end of the day. if nothing the off to the ombudsman. man at my work (water company) customer wave the ombudsman flag like theres no tomorrow and always get out of paying and i hated them for it lol and now im using it hahahahaha

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