Best Option For Staying Awd

[sydking]

evo will never be an option, a rex, well yer mabey.

As for cosmetics it dosent bother me to much, only thing i would do is roll the guards and a new paint job.

Anyone had info on were to look at or purchase GTR running gear.?

probably wouldn't want to spend more then 10- 15k in the end.

alot of the ground work can get done now such as suspension, brake upgrades.

also i assume i would need a change of cluster??

[N1GTR]

What a crap thread. Seriously.

You've got a gts4, and want to change cars/have something quicker. Ok that's fine. Don't want rwd? Fine.

So the plan is to spend 10-15k on your gts4, changing the running gear and a bit of panel work, which will end up being worth less than a stock gtr and most likely slower than one with 5k spent on it. Wow, smart move.

Just buy a car that's already turbo awd and save yourself the hassles. R33 GTR's are under 20k, so sell the gts4 for 10k then add another 10k, get the gtr, then 5k on it.

This thread has "I want to do it all on a budget" written all over it, starting an engine swap is a mistake as you'll be leaning towards cheap parts which end up being more of a problem.

Not being rude, being realistic instead.

[TiTAN]

just sell it and get a GTR. you will spend more money and end up with something that doesnt perform as well.

[CeJay]

not much gts4 love here lol. Ah well unless your going to wack an rb30 into it and turbo it, then yeah a 33 gtr would be better. since it is going to cost you at least 10k to turbo your car.

[CeJay]

or buy this

rb26 goodness preprepared http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...id=1273A9767657

[sydking]

What a crap thread. Seriously.

You've got a gts4, and want to change cars/have something quicker. Ok that's fine. Don't want rwd? Fine.

So the plan is to spend 10-15k on your gts4, changing the running gear and a bit of panel work, which will end up being worth less than a stock gtr and most likely slower than one with 5k spent on it. Wow, smart move.

Just buy a car that's already turbo awd and save yourself the hassles. R33 GTR's are under 20k, so sell the gts4 for 10k then add another 10k, get the gtr, then 5k on it.

This thread has "I want to do it all on a budget" written all over it, starting an engine swap is a mistake as you'll be leaning towards cheap parts which end up being more of a problem.

Not being rude, being realistic instead.

cheers for the reply, i here were your coming from, im just weighing up my options, and yes price does have an influence.

[PM-R33]

What a crap thread. Seriously.

You've got a gts4, and want to change cars/have something quicker. Ok that's fine. Don't want rwd? Fine.

So the plan is to spend 10-15k on your gts4, changing the running gear and a bit of panel work, which will end up being worth less than a stock gtr and most likely slower than one with 5k spent on it. Wow, smart move.

Just buy a car that's already turbo awd and save yourself the hassles. R33 GTR's are under 20k, so sell the gts4 for 10k then add another 10k, get the gtr, then 5k on it.

This thread has "I want to do it all on a budget" written all over it, starting an engine swap is a mistake as you'll be leaning towards cheap parts which end up being more of a problem.

Not being rude, being realistic instead.

Very well said.

Only two options for you if you are sticking with a turbo skyline, anything else is a dumb idea.

1. Buy a GTST and get over the fact it aint AWD

2. Buy a GTR and get over the fact you want to do this on a budget because it aint going to happen

[femno]

Well hang on...

His budget is 10-15k! 15k!

Also I dont know about a 33 GTS4 DE being worth 10k.

Even if you got 5k for it, spend 15k and buy a 33 GTR for 20k and youre laughing.

Its a buyers market atm. A nice clean early model 33 GTR with basic mods is easily achievable for 20k.

GTRs are as common as assholes these days

[TiTAN]

the non turbos are worth the same or more than the turbos thanks to the turbo restrictions on p platers.

[sydking]

Very well said.

Only two options for you if you are sticking with a turbo skyline, anything else is a dumb idea.

1. Buy a GTST and get over the fact it aint AWD

2. Buy a GTR and get over the fact you want to do this on a budget because it aint going to happen

money is a factor of course, thats like anything, but im not on a budget so to speak. 15k is soemthing nice to work towards, this isent exactly happening tomorrow.

And your first option, well id rather not.

I could get 10k for my car atm, well i would hope so anyway as that's the average price for them nowadays.

im yet to see a nice R33 GTR for <$20k,

Bought my current car from a jap import car yard here in sydney, but dont want to go down that road again.

[R32 DORI DORI]

32 GTR, slightly cheaper and looks better....I am alittle single sided with this though lol

[Messiah]

mate honestly, you first asked what your realistic options where and we've told you them.

To get an FI car with 4wd and stay nissan you either buy one of two cars (stag or gtr) or spend your whole budget, plus some to convert your current ride into an inferior imitation.

Now beyond mere monitary considerations, consider time aswell.

All in all you wont realstically get a engine, drive train brakes wheels etc etc done in the budget your considering, and if you were to take it a step further and pump the budget, you just make the case for buying a gtr event stronger.

GTR's out of japan are pretty good right now, 32's are dirt cheap, and 33's are more than reasonable.

If you have the budget to convert, you have more than enough to swap cars.

[PM-R33]

Out of curiousity, why are you so against buying a RWD car (not just talking about a GTST, but in general). Considering you own the worst power/weight ratio skyline available, it's not like you are having problems with the limitations of putting big power down in a RWD so the AWD advantage isn't something you know and it also can't be because you are used to the benefits that an AWD can bring as the R33 GTS4 isn't anything special in this deperatment either.

So yeah just want to know your reasoning as I'm curious why you are so against a RWD coming from what you own.

Edited April 22, 2010 by PM-R33

[sydking]

Out of curiousity, why are you so against buying a RWD car (not just talking about a GTST, but in general). Considering you own the worst power/weight ratio skyline available, it's not like you are having problems with the limitations of putting big power down in a RWD so the AWD advantage isn't something you know and it also can't be because you are used to the benefits that an AWD can bring as the R33 GTS4 isn't anything special in this deperatment either.

So yeah just want to know your reasoning as I'm curious why you are so against a RWD coming from what you own.

power to weight or whatever the AWD still works wonders in a N/A. Corners grip like a bitch and the wet its great.

But talking power wise I would want a AWD over RW for sure. Just my preference.

Have you driven both RW and AWD skylines??

[Brezza]

i'd say just get a GTR either a 32 or 33, save your money on stuffing around sourcing parts, haivng the car off the road, plus all the headaches of doing engine changeovers etc.

like others have said the money you'd spend on making your car similar to a GTR or a turbo GTS with AWD, will be more than you would spend on just getting a GTR.

if i were you i would just go for a GTR, you will be very happy with the power you can achieve too, its a higher base to start modifying from.

[sydking]

i'd say just get a GTR either a 32 or 33, save your money on stuffing around sourcing parts, haivng the car off the road, plus all the headaches of doing engine changeovers etc.

like others have said the money you'd spend on making your car similar to a GTR or a turbo GTS with AWD, will be more than you would spend on just getting a GTR.

if i were you i would just go for a GTR, you will be very happy with the power you can achieve too, its a higher base to start modifying from.

Yeah i think i might settle for a nice 32.

[paulr33]

agree with femno %200

ring up a few BCNR33's for sale at sub 22k and say ive got 20k cash in the bank ready

do you want to sell? cos i want to buy

youll be surprised how easy they will fold

given there are so many for sale, they wont say nah man, 23k or dont bother coming

trust me, they will fold and meet you half way or bend over at take it for 20k

[GUN_METAL_GTR32]

power to weight or whatever the AWD still works wonders in a N/A. Corners grip like a bitch and the wet its great.

But talking power wise I would want a AWD over RW for sure. Just my preference.

Have you driven both RW and AWD skylines??

um yeah i have had both awd and rwd and in their own rights both are very fun.

f**k off the gts4 pos and get a gtr 32 that way u can go awd and rwd at the flick of a switch if u want gtr33 imo is a tad ugly but i still hold respect to them. dont waste ur time f**king with ur car it is literally pointless and by the time u are nearly finished u could have bought 2 gtr's

[Mr.Massive]

I am currently almost finished installing a stagea s1 engine into my 33 gts4. This is one of the easiest conversions as everything is compatible alternator, starter, aircon etc........ Just pick up a bare engine, get all aftermarket exhausts and turbo and dump it in there. You don't need to change over your gearbox as it is strong enough and you don't need to find a manual stagea as all you need is a spigot bush which is very simple to install. The only major hassle is the front diff. I've decided to keep my gts4 ratio as gears are longer than stageas, if your not using your gts4 for the track I advise you to do this but its up to you.

Rwd is a lot of fun but AWD is my style of drive. You can hammer it around a corner and swing your ass out with more power on the surface than a rwd car allowing you to come out of the corner a lot quicker. Even if you want a bit of rwd fun just drop the front shaft its simple.

If you want a rb26 your better off selling and buying a gtr as parts prices are high.

P.S if you are going to do this bigger fuel pump is needed!

[Jaysiin]

dude,

just get a landcruiser 80 series.

turbo, Low/High 2wd/4wd gearing select and 4wd lock! your set!

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