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i think i'll be doing the turbo very shortly so i'll get it done then scotty :)

What turbo? Only asking because if you go the same as mine(which you can) you need to use a shorter actuator which is supplied by the turbo place.

What turbo? Only asking because if you go the same as mine(which you can) you need to use a shorter actuator which is supplied by the turbo place.

yeah probly the same as ur's the GT30/71 core........... there's no point in maxing out a stage 1 when i might aswell go a stage 2 and detune it.

300kwaw is the goal or whatever <550hp at the crank is.......... dont feel like breaking everything LOL

has anyone else been told by shannon's that they wont insure them unless the car is parked in a garage??? surely there is another solution..............

atm its parked in a carport behind a locked colourbond fence and there's no room in the garage due to project cars being in there.

who else might insure a modified import with my bad licence history, no accedents but! and yes im over 25 :P

and there's no way im trying just car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! farken ripoff's they are pretty much double the price if not more!!!!!!!!!!

Depends on your suburb mate. Shannons have categories for on the street parking, driveway/carport and LUG.

If you tick to many boxes/don't tick enough they won't offer insurance.

They had a Volvo 240 parked on the street at redfern- the premium was over $1500 from memory. More than the car.....

has anyone else been told by shannon's that they wont insure them unless the car is parked in a garage??? surely there is another solution..............

atm its parked in a carport behind a locked colourbond fence and there's no room in the garage due to project cars being in there.

who else might insure a modified import with my bad licence history, no accedents but! and yes im over 25 :P

and there's no way im trying just car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! farken ripoff's they are pretty much double the price if not more!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, I tried Shannons and they knocked me back for not parking in the garage...

So I'm with JCI. They aren't THAT bad...but you do get what you pay for...haven't had to make a claim with them yet...

turns out i was panacing for nothing NRMA will insure a modified vehicle, apparently they dont give a crap anymore and you dont even have to list the modifications :D

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ok havent updated for a while cos i've just wasted all my cash on rego/greenslip and insurance but..............

i'm hoping to gather all the parts i need to get about 500HP at the crank (running 98RON)......... so what am i looking at:

i've got the ecu sorted, and brake upgrade for the fronts underway.

need some help with the check list.........

HDi EBC

stage 2 highflow turbo

injectors..... what size, i just want the straight plug and play ones (Deatschwerks) ?

fuel pump.............

scotty's wastegate actuator

will i need to do custom suction pipe???

alloy radiator and nismo thermostat

do i need to do other gearbox mods ???

anything else i need to consider ???

Edited by WAGON_BOY

Injectors- the smallest possible size that still achieves your power goal, and provides a decent amount of head room. Will explain.

Yup, you'll need custom suction pipe for sure- I believe Scotty has done a few by now

The 3.5:1 final drives will make your car more drivable, reduce gearbox strain, and make it go faster

Gearbox- well, depends how you drive it I think. If you want to go hard all the time, or track it, then I think you'll need to build the box. If you want a cruiser with the occasional squirt, as long as it survives the dyno, it'll probably be fine. As long as you can get it up on stall / boost for a launch.

Fuel pump, there is a few 300l/min drop ins available now- you'd have to figure out if they are any good.

New set of plugs, if you haven't done em lately

Maybe set of electric fans to ditch the clutch fan, and gain more controllability over temps

Maybe oil cooler - same remarks as gearbox build really.

So, injectors. When you tune these things, the factory computer has a table called torque management. In simple terms, it tells the gearbox what pressure to run at set RPM on one axis and base fuel schedule on the other. When you drop in bigger injectors, this has a radical effect on the base fuel schedule calculation- reducing it. What that means is that the car will never see the areas of the map where the factory has programmed a higher line pressure for a better change. You'll only get lower line pressure, and therefore slower shifts. Unfortunately there is no way to change this on the cursed NM35 ECU. So, instead of going 1000cc injectors, get something that will see your power goal, but not reduce BFS so much that you drop out of the higher pressure areas of the table. ok? thumbsup.gif

So, injectors. When you tune these things, the factory computer has a table called torque management. In simple terms, it tells the gearbox what pressure to run at set RPM on one axis and base fuel schedule on the other. When you drop in bigger injectors, this has a radical effect on the base fuel schedule calculation- reducing it. What that means is that the car will never see the areas of the map where the factory has programmed a higher line pressure for a better change. You'll only get lower line pressure, and therefore slower shifts. Unfortunately there is no way to change this on the cursed NM35 ECU. So, instead of going 1000cc injectors, get something that will see your power goal, but not reduce BFS so much that you drop out of the higher pressure areas of the table. ok? thumbsup.gif

yeah i read on your thread the drama's u had with this.

i might aswell let the cat out of the bag, im the one who bought the HKS F-con V-Pro :D

I've done a but of research and I'm not sure about Deatschwerks. ID1000s are about the same price and you can get plug and play tails for them.

Apparently you'll also need the suction pipe.

I've got similar goals and my list is...

HKS F con

HKS EVC 6

ID1000s

Deatschwerks 300lph fuel pump, rewired

Suction pipe and cold air intake

Also doing power steering and Trans cooler, and shift kit.

Did you work out your dramas after you changed the hoses?

this is a screen shot of what I mean. These are factory values. Imagine a car ramping up right to the far right side of the table. Then you drop big injectors in and the car reduces to a base fuel schedule max of 12.00. See what values you get then?

torque management screenshot.docx

Edited by PN-Mad

Injectors- the smallest possible size that still achieves your power goal, and provides a decent amount of head room. Will explain.

Yup, you'll need custom suction pipe for sure- I believe Scotty has done a few by now

The 3.5:1 final drives will make your car more drivable, reduce gearbox strain, and make it go faster

Gearbox- well, depends how you drive it I think. If you want to go hard all the time, or track it, then I think you'll need to build the box. If you want a cruiser with the occasional squirt, as long as it survives the dyno, it'll probably be fine. As long as you can get it up on stall / boost for a launch.

Fuel pump, there is a few 300l/min drop ins available now- you'd have to figure out if they are any good.

New set of plugs, if you haven't done em lately

Maybe set of electric fans to ditch the clutch fan, and gain more controllability over temps

Maybe oil cooler - same remarks as gearbox build really.

So, injectors. When you tune these things, the factory computer has a table called torque management. In simple terms, it tells the gearbox what pressure to run at set RPM on one axis and base fuel schedule on the other. When you drop in bigger injectors, this has a radical effect on the base fuel schedule calculation- reducing it. What that means is that the car will never see the areas of the map where the factory has programmed a higher line pressure for a better change. You'll only get lower line pressure, and therefore slower shifts. Unfortunately there is no way to change this on the cursed NM35 ECU. So, instead of going 1000cc injectors, get something that will see your power goal, but not reduce BFS so much that you drop out of the higher pressure areas of the table. ok? thumbsup.gif

That issue you can put down to the tuner not having enough experience with VQ's, and the fact your ecu isn't expecting the boost hit. Our stock ecu is fine, with Emanage, Fcon and whatever injectors you want to put in. Verified by Cihan, proven by me. :whistling:

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