M35 V-Manage Install

[scotty nm35]

I just fitted a V-manage unit with the help of my tuner Cihan, it doesn't seem to be outputting the correct signal to the cam retarders but I can read the stock cam mapping quite well. It seems to be advancing the cams early on, before the stock turbo makes boost which is promising, up to 30 degrees advance from what I logged.

The VQ35de data I am using to control it must have a different signal to run its hydraulic cam retarders, and there doesn't seem to be any other CVCT VQ's listed. Does anyone know of a different VQ that runs the same electromagnetic actuator?

Not looking good for the cable throttle install as the cams will go into full retard once the engine is in limp mode, unless I can get this working.

I have emailed Greddy Japan for support but im not holding my breath...

[Jetwreck]

Just rip out all the VCT and put some big f#$k off solid lift cam's in.....the idle would be awesome!!!!!!.....lol!

[ironpaw]

Hmmm maybe its time to save up for a GZONE remap....and a complete retune

[Jetwreck]

Hmmm maybe its time to save up for a GZONE remap....and a complete retune

yup....do it!!!....be a pioneer!

might find some others follow once they know it's good!

Edited April 18, 2011 by Jetwreck

[iamhe77]

I just fitted a V-manage unit with the help of my tuner Cihan, it doesn't seem to be outputting the correct signal to the cam retarders but I can read the stock cam mapping quite well. It seems to be advancing the cams early on, before the stock turbo makes boost which is promising, up to 30 degrees advance from what I logged.

The VQ35de data I am using to control it must have a different signal to run its hydraulic cam retarders, and there doesn't seem to be any other CVCT VQ's listed. Does anyone know of a different VQ that runs the same electromagnetic actuator?

Not looking good for the cable throttle install as the cams will go into full retard once the engine is in limp mode, unless I can get this working.

I have emailed Greddy Japan for support but im not holding my breath...

Not 100% certain but as stated last night the VQ23de will probably have it.

Actually.... it references the CVTC only for VQ25det and VQ23de on the VQ section of Wikipedia

Hmm... the VQ23de was used in the Teana in the US, so maybe you should talk to Greddy US instead of Japan.

[bigkevracer]

yup....do it!!!....be a pioneer!

might find some others follow once they know it's good!

I'm actually in the process of doing this at the moment.

After I saw that listing on Import Monster, I spoke to a colleague who knows Japanese, and she passed the information on to a friend in Japan to be the go between person.

At the moment it sounds like it'll be about $600-700 if I supply an ECU, including removing the speed limiter and throttle restriction. They'd prefer to have the whole car, but obviously that's not possible.

I'll keep everyone posted, but I might want to borrow that ECU sooner rather than later Craig

[richzx]

Good stuff. I would definitely be interested in a remap especially if we can get better economy as well as the removal of the throttle restrictions down low.

[ironpaw]

Good stuff. I would definitely be interested in a remap especially if we can get better economy as well as the removal of the throttle restrictions down low.

Hate to break it to you mate, you'll never get better economy when you have a more responsive throttle and more power!

unless you want spend 5k and get LPG installed

[Dunc]

Hate to break it to you mate, you'll never get better economy when you have a more responsive throttle and more power!

Is that working under the assumption that with a more responsive throttle and more power you'll be more inclined to put your foot down?

[ironpaw]

Is that working under the assumption that with a more responsive throttle and more power you'll be more inclined to put your foot down?

LOL....u assume right

[Jetwreck]

Hate to break it to you mate, you'll never get better economy when you have a more responsive throttle and more power!

What's the throttle controlled by!

Edited April 19, 2011 by Jetwreck

[Daleo]

I'm actually in the process of doing this at the moment.

After I saw that listing on Import Monster, I spoke to a colleague who knows Japanese, and she passed the information on to a friend in Japan to be the go between person.

At the moment it sounds like it'll be about $600-700 if I supply an ECU, including removing the speed limiter and throttle restriction. They'd prefer to have the whole car, but obviously that's not possible.

I'll keep everyone posted, but I might want to borrow that ECU sooner rather than later Craig

Definitely keep us informed of how this progresses, I dare say there's enough demand to justify your effort!

[bigkevracer]

Definitely keep us informed of how this progresses, I dare say there's enough demand to justify your effort!

There's enough demand right here to justify the effort

I'd say it'll be easier with a Japanese translator, just have to work out cost and procedure, then maybe we can organise to send a few over, assuming the first one goes ok?

Happy to be the guinea rat, sounds like it'll be worthwhile regardless of what aftermarket stuff I run later.

[scotty nm35]

I have a spare ecu also if it all works out.

You will still need some way of adjusting fuel and timing though if you have gone the highflow path... No way you can guess that tune from the other side of the world.

[scotty nm35]

Just rip out all the VCT and put some big f#$k off solid lift cam's in.....the idle would be awesome!!!!!!.....lol!

I had the lumpy idle yesterday. lol. The engine wanted to stall with the actuators on full advance.

[ironpaw]

I have a spare ecu also if it all works out.

You will still need some way of adjusting fuel and timing though if you have gone the highflow path... No way you can guess that tune from the other side of the world.

Good thing I found that Emanage CD last nite!

[richzx]

Hate to break it to you mate, you'll never get better economy when you have a more responsive throttle and more power!

unless you want spend 5k and get LPG installed

Well I'm guessing that part of the tuning may well be a leaning off of the A/F ratios which will most certainly give better economy. Not everyone drives like a wanker and has to fang it non stop. Better off boost and low boost around town economy should be easily achieved by this. I can accept poor economy if I cane it but when I drive on the highway or around town with the kids in the car I would like better economy than I'm getting now.

[PN-Mad]

The VQ35de data I am using to control it must have a different signal to run its hydraulic cam retarders, and there doesn't seem to be any other CVCT VQ's listed. Does anyone know of a different VQ that runs the same electromagnetic actuator?

Might be clutching at straws, but the VQ35HR motor had hydraulic intake and electromagnetic exhaust. that help at all?

What's the throttle controlled by!

complex answer on a VQ25det!!!

[scotty nm35]

The HR isnt supported by Greddy, why I have no idea, its only programming the pwm outputs as far as I know. Cant find an english manual anywhere either. Not the smartest considering half their gear is bought by overseas customers these days.

I wish there was better support for this as its a great product with many uses, these variable cam engines are just starting to be unleashed.

[bigkevracer]

I have a spare ecu also if it all works out.

You will still need some way of adjusting fuel and timing though if you have gone the highflow path... No way you can guess that tune from the other side of the world.

I haven't gone down that path yet, but I will. I figured when I got to that point I'd need an Emanage or something similar regardless of whether I get the G-Zone done.