Calling Dietary Gurus

[TTT]

request mods change thread title to calling all broscientists

[L33SH]

^bwah

[jangles]

My problem with a lot of the science on nutrition these days, is that, like a lot of science in the fitness industry these days...it gets owned by real world results.

Wanna lift or look like someone? Stop reading articles and ask them what they do, what they eat...then mimick it exactly. You won't end up exactly the same due to genetics, but you'll get damn close (including their injuries). AKA broscience but AKA shit that actually works and has results to back it up.

Poor leigh, 9 years time and he'll be skinny

[Mitcho_7]

Hah, I eat my wheat cereal, half a loaf of bread during the day, potatos or rice or pasta as part of dinner...all gets used up in the catabolic exercise that it fuels. Anti-carb people can choke on my 10% bodyfat.

I feel like in in the same boat as you. I don't count calories or macros, I eat a shit tonne of carbs, lots of protein and a moderate amount of fat I'd say, yet I still have a low body fat % and a physique most people would be more than happy with.

[L33SH]

I feel like in in the same boat as you. I don't count calories or macros, I eat a shit tonne of carbs, lots of protein and a moderate amount of fat I'd say, yet I still have a low body fat % and a physique most people would be more than happy with.

Pics?

[jangles]

I feel like in in the same boat as you. I don't count calories or macros, I eat a shit tonne of carbs, lots of protein and a moderate amount of fat I'd say, yet I still have a low body fat % and a physique most people would be more than happy with.

how much on average do you think/know?

People that eat 'clean' lose weight. What they are doing works, but they are just eating less calories than they need a day by default.

Yourself and birds just so happen to eat around what you need to achieve what you want.

It works for you, so why not.

[some_cs_student]

You've got an abnormally high metabolism, which is why you can get away with this. Normal people wouldn't be able to out-train your diet unless it WAS their life lol.

Actually it is more hormone related than having a "fast" or "slow" metabolism.

You can't out train a poor diet...I've seen that proven before. However if your naturally skinny than you can eat a lot of junk and still not gain visible bodyfat.

Of course exercise helps, but diet is more important for fat loss.

[Mitcho_7]

how much on average do you think/know?

People that eat 'clean' lose weight. What they are doing works, but they are just eating less calories than they need a day by default.

Yourself and birds just so happen to eat around what you need to achieve what you want.

It works for you, so why not.

By years end ill have a human biology degree, so I'm not exactly ignorant but i don't try to pretend I know anything about nutrition.

[xALmoN]

but we're evolved around a animal fat/protein diet supplemented with fruits and stuff, read supplemented.

[Birds]

Poor leigh, 9 years time and he'll be skinny

If he stays with what he's doing now, he'll continue to impress the opposite sex with a great looking, athletic body and some decent strength to boot

[UNR33L]

"hrm this thread looks interesting" *clicks*

nek minit my name coming up dafaq?

I've always been pretty skinny with a small pot belly my weight went from around 68kg to 78kg in a few months with what I like to call the unemployed dirty bulk aka maccas + mass gainer every day, I really just wanted to 'bulk up' a bit and didn't think much of it at the time just some home gym and ate a shit load whilst being at home all day not working, I mean yeh it bulked me up a bit but really did put on fat too. I cut out the take away, started working again and joined gym with Birds for the last 5 months and counting, down to 73-74kg at the moment and way more definition & muscle, main thing I changed was bringing brown rice and chicken in every day to work rather than eating what ever the canteen had.. burgers etc. seems to be working so far so I'll stick to it.

Also to add, my question is what do people think of fruits?

Edited March 26, 2013 by UNR33L

[Birds]

I feel like in in the same boat as you. I don't count calories or macros, I eat a shit tonne of carbs, lots of protein and a moderate amount of fat I'd say, yet I still have a low body fat % and a physique most people would be more than happy with.

Yep and people will explain it away as some magical skinny person bullshit that apparently fat people are born without. Conversely, skinny people will say they can't gain weight no matter how much they eat...I call bullshit on both parts. Genetic differences only take you so far in the case of the average person.

I can give someone vastly different to me, my diet and exercise routine, and given enough time, they will start to develop a body like mine. Case in point; Leigh.

[rev210]

Yep and people will explain it away as some magical skinny person bullshit that apparently fat people are born without. Conversely, skinny people will say they can't gain weight no matter how much they eat...I call bullshit on both parts. Genetic differences only take you so far in the case of the average person.

I can give someone vastly different to me, my diet and exercise routine, and given enough time, they will start to develop a body like mine. Case in point; Leigh.

What you are bascially pointing out is correct and works, energy in vs energy used. If you eat less than you use then you lose weight. For the most part it is hard work.

How much lean muscle you can have is the trickier bit. That is genetics and diet. Some will need to do alot more work on diet to get as lean as 10% others not so much. But, you certainly aren't in the 'do bugger all ' category to get lean, you are doing the work for sure.

The game changes according to what physique you want as well.

[Birds]

I agree with that!

Speaking of, how has the fat loss been going for you? Haven't seen a build thread update for a bit...

[some_cs_student]

Yep and people will explain it away as some magical skinny person bullshit that apparently fat people are born without. Conversely, skinny people will say they can't gain weight no matter how much they eat...I call bullshit on both parts. Genetic differences only take you so far in the case of the average person.

I can give someone vastly different to me, my diet and exercise routine, and given enough time, they will start to develop a body like mine. Case in point; Leigh.

Everyone is different when it comes to fat loss and muscle gain. Hormones and genetics are not the same.

So the same diet may not work for everyone, just like the same training strategy doesn't work for everyone.

Anyway it works for you so good luck

[jangles]

By years end ill have a human biology degree, so I'm not exactly ignorant but i don't try to pretend I know anything about nutrition.

i meant eat of said macros daily sorry.

[TTT]

Also to add, my question is what do people think of fruits?

I have nothing against them. If they prefer to eat cock that is totally up to them.

I don't see why others need to discuss it.

[rev210]

I agree with that!

Speaking of, how has the fat loss been going for you? Haven't seen a build thread update for a bit...

Not great. Had a month of high stress at work, diet and excersise suffered. Lost weight probably as a result but, the wrong kind due to skipping meals at work.

[Trozzle]

So far this morning I've consumed:

~1.5L water total

multivitamin

2 scoops (60g) BN vanilla WPI

1 scoop fine powdered oats

Regular skim flat white, no added sugar

Ham, cheese, and tomato toasted croissant

Double choc hot cross bun

Strawberry choc hot cross bun

Am I doing it right? I'm aiming for ~1kg of fat loss per week while I gain at least 2kg lean muscle mass in the same period.

PLS ADVICE

[GTR-N1]

"hrm...

Also to add, my question is what do people think of fruits?

Fruits are a good source of...

* antioxidants

* complex carbs as fuel

* enzymes

* precursors for good prostaglandins

Fruits are best taken local and in season.

Have you noticed that local winter fruits are good for the immune system? Winter apples have seeds rich in Vit B17 or Laetrile. Winter grapes have seeds rich in resveratrol. Tis good to eat the seeds.

Have you noticed that local summer fruits are good for the skin? Apricots and paw paw for example.