Vic Wasteland Thread

[emts]

seems I'm going to have to go to Bali next year.

Friends getting married there.

avoided it this long, guess time to bite the bullet.

[HEKT1K]

I don't pretend to understand economics, but when the media throw numbers and words around regarding debt, billions, trillions etc... they make it sound like it's a 30 year old couple with a billion dollar mortgage..

But the sure fire way to fix it is to cut everyones wages, because that will surely solve the problem. The big builders will surely lower their prices and pass the savings on to the client..

lol.

Cut tradie wages, f**k paying the ambos more too. But it's all good for real estate agents etc to be earning enough to drive lambos..

Ok so you're just an (admittedly) ignorant socialist.

Personally I'd rather drive the Lambo than have the Lambo laptop, but that's just me

[PENGUYEN]

Ross brown pls

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Such an uneducated statement. Let me guess your happy to pay ambos more, police more, firefighters more so long as your tax doesn't go up? Tax the rich am I right? Only problem is they don't have enough "rich" people to cover it all..

No disrespect to ambos etc I take my hat off to them but the amount of idiots all saying Yeh pay em more go labor haven't stopped to ask where is labor gonna get the money if liberal don't have it? ... borrow it and go into debt? Raise taxes from their core voter base of course not..

But if you can't see that labor is systemically incompetent then I don't know what to say

I think the Ambo's deserve to be at least paid in line with the other states. But more important than their wages is the hospital situation in general.

If you were in my position 18 months ago, lying on the bed only able to move half your body with a life threatening illness, and that ambulance you called simply wasn't coming... you would have a very different view. 20 f**king minutes. Then when I got to hospital over 4 hours before I could be seen by anything other than a nurse, and the only reason I got treatment then us because I had a seizure.

People are actually dying due to how this situation has been mis-handled... it's not even something that needs questioning, it should just be done. Period.

And if you want ideas as to where to get the money from, I would suggest that we probably need Ambo's and hospital beds more than the extra PSO's we got instead under Napthine.

Also, why do you assume that because I disagree with a few specific policies of the LNP that makes me a stereotypical extreme lefty? There are plenty of things I don't like about policies on both sides. I vote on current issues, not stereotypes and propaganda... Hell I have even voted liberal previously when they presented a better option.

Seems to me I'm not the one making the uneducated statements...

[Leroy Peterson]

VWLBC:

anyone got suggestions for sunnies? not beach/surfer I-spent-my-montly-wage-on-dragon-sunglasses look, but the i-have-taste-in-sunnies-unlike-your-BMW-cufflinks sort of thing.

i dont even know where to start. kthnx

[Count Grantleyish]

Off to sunglasses hut you go and try it out.

[Leroy Peterson]

Off to sunglasses hut you go and try it out.

im at work for another 3 days... need something to google to pass time.

also, dont want to walk into shop without an idea or might come out looking like this bloke

[Count Grantleyish]

I'd tell you to buy Carrera but I'm biased.

Look thru website and see whatever tickles your fancy.

[Count Grantleyish]

Ross brown pls

Yeah...

[HEKT1K]

VWLBC:

anyone got suggestions for sunnies? not beach/surfer I-spent-my-montly-wage-on-dragon-sunglasses look, but the i-have-taste-in-sunnies-unlike-your-BMW-cufflinks sort of thing.

i dont even know where to start. kthnx

Yes but you like pulsars and not-Meisters, so I fear any advice I give will fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes, as it were)

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Brown ross lel

[emts]

speaking of..

from dt panels Vu today:

The S15 is back up for sale due to a massive timewaster. The same guy who made an underhand deal last year to screw me out of buying my black R34 back.

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/…/422421-gt-r-34-rolling-shell/

If I knew it was you Brown Ross, I never would have dealt with you. But you knew that, that's why you sent in your mate to say he was going to buy my S15. I knocked back everyone who wanted to buy my parts and the car for three weeks, stripped off the parts you didn't want, only to have you say today you don't want it anymore. All while puppeteering your mate so I wouldn't know it was you. I'm tired of your shit. Stop screwing with me.

For everyone else, the car and parts are back up for sale:

[alr33x]

I think the Ambo's deserve to be at least paid in line with the other states. But more important than their wages is the hospital situation in general.

If you were in my position 18 months ago, lying on the bed only able to move half your body with a life threatening illness, and that ambulance you called simply wasn't coming... you would have a very different view. 20 f**king minutes. Then when I got to hospital over 4 hours before I could be seen by anything other than a nurse, and the only reason I got treatment then us because I had a seizure.

People are actually dying due to how this situation has been mis-handled... it's not even something that needs questioning, it should just be done. Period.

And if you want ideas as to where to get the money from, I would suggest that we probably need Ambo's and hospital beds more than the extra PSO's we got instead under Napthine.

Also, why do you assume that because I disagree with a few specific policies of the LNP that makes me a stereotypical extreme lefty? There are plenty of things I don't like about policies on both sides. I vote on current issues, not stereotypes and propaganda... Hell I have even voted liberal previously when they presented a better option.

Seems to me I'm not the one making the uneducated statements...

Well I see ya fb posts and they always cater to left & greens 100% of the time

Can we not forget ambos are on circa 100k & 10 weeks leave with Andrews promising 6% increase and a 3k sign on I hardly feel they are horribly underpaid

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Lol this is liberal propaganda 100%

Ambo's arent on 100k or even close. If they were I wouldn't give a shit about their wages.

Thats laughable. The average ambo takes ~ 70k gross. To get to 100k is someone that has been with the service for like a decade and had duties well above and beyond being a simple paramedic. With a burnout rate of approx 2-3 years there are very very few Ambo's that make more than average wage.

That $100k figure was a straight lie said in an interview by David Davis and has been debunked many times since.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Also if you think about it, my facebook posts have really only been about federal issues, and to that end they haven't really even been anti liberal as such... Anti Abbott, Morrison and Hockey yes, but all but the absolute most die hard of LNP fanbois now admit those 3 are complete clowns. (Although I understand the confusion here)

The only victorian issue I have commented on was the ambulance thing and to be honest I didn't really have a problem with the Napthine administration save for a few minor issues I would have with any political party.

You also don't see me defending the desal plant for example. That was a major major stuff up fron the prev government.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

speaking of..

from dt panels Vu today:

The S15 is back up for sale due to a massive timewaster. The same guy who made an underhand deal last year to screw me out of buying my black R34 back.

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/…/422421-gt-r-34-rolling-shell/

If I knew it was you Brown Ross, I never would have dealt with you. But you knew that, that's why you sent in your mate to say he was going to buy my S15. I knocked back everyone who wanted to buy my parts and the car for three weeks, stripped off the parts you didn't want, only to have you say today you don't want it anymore. All while puppeteering your mate so I wouldn't know it was you. I'm tired of your shit. Stop screwing with me.

For everyone else, the car and parts are back up for sale:

Lol hence my brown ross comment

[Leroy Peterson]

I reckon they earn it. High stress job on shift work. Rotating 12hr day and night shifts. I know a couple of paramedics, some dropped out due to stress issues and rest dont have much of a life. You could probably go work on a mine site as a paramedic for better money and do very little in comparison...

But that applies to just about any profession on a mine site. So far ive almost been impressed with the knowledge and work ethic of maybe less than 5 individuals. The rest are so slow, lazy or incompetent (usually all 3) its no wonder this job is $3 billion over budget lol

[Plattsy]

poorly maintained

this....

the budget as it is, isnt enough to maintain what they have, let alone build billions of dollars wrth of ships...

however a few million of that billion, has come thru my company, and in part been passed to the local community, employees, local charity, my football club.

so some of it does trickle down mate, but not alot.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I reckon they earn it. High stress job on shift work. Rotating 12hr day and night shifts. I know a couple of paramedics, some dropped out due to stress issues and rest dont have much of a life. You could probably go work on a mine site as a paramedic for better money and do very little in comparison...

But that applies to just about any profession on a mine site. So far ive almost been impressed with the knowledge and work ethic of maybe less than 5 individuals. The rest are so slow, lazy or incompetent (usually all 3) its no wonder this job is $3 billion over budget lol

Damn straight they earn it. Majorly shit job.

I was actually enrolled to Paramedical Science when the bank job came up and I went that way instead. Very glad I didn't continue.

[alr33x]

Yeah they earn it no denying it im happy for them to be paid more provided economic conditions allow it and the numbers just don't support it.

Don't forget they get 10 weeks leave compared to everyone else's 4 . Include days off they only work approx 148 days a year - long hard days no doubt but comeon and side note but vic ambos take an average of 16.4 unplanned days off per year - double SA counterparts

Also they get a $9000 tax benefit average joe does not get so another leg up there.

*stats are from 2013 newest I could find