Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Has anyone used two oil sandwich plates before (on top of the stock oil warmer / cooler) and has it caused any clearance issues with the fitment of the oil filter? My skyline is in a million pieces (engine out) at the moment so I can't have a look and estimate the clearance.

I know it's not ideal using two as its just another point of failure / leaks, but it will make my life easier :P

Cheers

Justin

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/402155-using-two-oil-sandwich-plates/
Share on other sites

No I mean two sandwich plates in addition to the stock oil warmer / cooler. I have an oil cooler to install with a built in thermostat in the sandwich plate, so it doesn't have room for the 1/8" NPT sensor holes. I need to install an oil pressure sensor and will possibly install another oil temp sensor down the track so i will need a second sandwich plate with the sensor holes.

I realise I could get rid of the factory oil pressure sensor and install the new one there, but then I would need to find a BPT to NPT adapter to fit it, and the (crap) factory oil pressure gauge would stop working, which whilst pretty much useless would annoy me to not have it working. I think you can get a BPT adapter with a tap for both a BPT and NPT sensor, but I havent been able to find one anywhere.

Ok, most common thing to do is get a relocator kit. Then the oil filter relo plate has the bungs u require

That is the third and probably smartest option :) - but if I did want to do go with the 2 sandwich plates do you think I would have a clearance issue between the oil filter and the drivers side wheel arch? As my engine in not in the car I cant visualise it.

I am just looking the oil filter now and I do use the smaller R34 type ones, so I am pretty sure there will be plenty of room.

Can't you just drill and tap some holes in the thermo sandwich plate?

I thought of that but there is only a small area where that might be possible, and its kinda recessed and on an angle:

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/1597/Mocal_Sandwich_Plate

Not sure it how well it would work.

I use two on my boat.

one for oil supply from dry sump + sensors

one mocal sandwich plate for thermostat - attached to heat exchanger

No dramas in terms of "its just another point of failure / leaks"

Not sure on clearance issues tho...

post-29626-0-81291700-1339281354_thumb.jpg

I use two on my boat.

one for oil supply from dry sump + sensors

one mocal sandwich plate for thermostat - attached to heat exchanger

No dramas in terms of "its just another point of failure / leaks"

Not sure on clearance issues tho...

Using an RB25 in a boat = awesome! :P

I'm going to order one of the Just Jap items linked to above, I think clearance will be fine.

Thanks everybody.

  • 3 years later...

Hi all, I've just ordered a Driftworks oil cooler kit with the Mocal thermostatic sandwich plate, which doesn't have sensor points.

I have an existing sandwich plate for Defi sensors and I'm wondering if I can run both at the same time? The car is an R34 GTT with the Neo engine and standard small Ryco Z422 filter.

The other option is to add an extender piece (?) between the oil cooler sandwich plate and the braided line where you can hook the sensors but I'm not sure if such a part exists?

1/8 npt into 1/8 bpt won't seal?

NOPE

the threads are incompatible, but they are close enough that you can force it in. however that means you have over stressed some of the threads and it could develop a leak at any time. Which is probably a bad idea if you use it where you care about the quality of the seal, for example.. in a pressurised oil feed!

to answer the original question, in a GTT I don't see how clearance could be an issue. I reckon you could stack 5 or 6 sandwich plates before you have any issues.. there's a ton of room!

  • Like 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Yeah, that's fine**. But the numbers you came up with are just wrong. Try it for yourself. Put in any voltage from the possible range and see what result you get. You get nonsense. ** When I say "fine", I mean, it's still shit. The very simple linear formula (slope & intercept) is shit for a sensor with a non-linear response. This is the curve, from your data above. Look at the CURVE! It's only really linear between about 30 and 90 °C. And if you used only that range to define a curve, it would be great. But you would go more and more wrong as you went to higher temps. And that is why the slope & intercept found when you use 50 and 150 as the end points is so bad halfway between those points. The real curve is a long way below the linear curve which just zips straight between the end points, like this one. You could probably use the same slope and a lower intercept, to move that straight line down, and spread the error out. But you would 5-10°C off in a lot of places. You'd need to say what temperature range you really wanted to be most right - say, 100 to 130, and plop the line closest to teh real curve in that region, which would make it quite wrong down at the lower temperatures. Let me just say that HPTuners are not being realistic in only allowing for a simple linear curve. 
    • I feel I should re-iterate. The above picture is the only option available in the software and the blurb from HP Tuners I quoted earlier is the only way to add data to it and that's the description they offer as to how to figure it out. The only fields available is the blank box after (Input/ ) and the box right before = Output. Those are the only numbers that can be entered.
    • No, your formula is arse backwards. Mine is totally different to yours, and is the one I said was bang on at 50 and 150. I'll put your data into Excel (actually it already is, chart it and fit a linear fit to it, aiming to make it evenly wrong across the whole span. But not now. Other things to do first.
    • God damnit. The only option I actually have in the software is the one that is screenshotted. I am glad that I at least got it right... for those two points. Would it actually change anything if I chose/used 80C and 120C as the two points instead? My brain wants to imagine the formula put into HPtuners would be the same equation, otherwise none of this makes sense to me, unless: 1) The formula you put into VCM Scanner/HPTuners is always linear 2) The two points/input pairs are only arbitrary to choose (as the documentation implies) IF the actual scaling of the sensor is linear. then 3) If the scaling is not linear, the two points you choose matter a great deal, because the formula will draw a line between those two points only.
    • Nah, that is hella wrong. If I do a simple linear between 150°C (0.407v) and 50°C (2.98v) I get the formula Temperature = -38.8651*voltage + 165.8181 It is perfectly correct at 50 and 150, but it is as much as 20° out in the region of 110°C, because the actual data is significantly non-linear there. It is no more than 4° out down at the lowest temperatures, but is is seriously shit almost everywhere. I cannot believe that the instruction is to do a 2 point linear fit. I would say the method I used previously would have to be better.
×
×
  • Create New...