Potential Of Stock 33 Gtst Brakes

[eightsixboy]

Hi all,

Not sure if this has been covered before or not properly (did search), I basically just want to know if stock 33 gtst brakes with decent pads/rotors/lines are good enough for light track days?

I don't want to upgrade to Brembo's or d2's/ksports if its not really required, Im not going to be diong alot of track work, maybe 2-3 track days a year at winton plus deca's.

I would love to upgrade rotors only to GTR and use the stock calipers but know one makes the adaptors besides uas ($350+).

Let me know what you guys think before I start buying rotors and pads.

Thanks.

[ARTZ]

for light track days they are fine...Ive been punting around a few track days with 300kws still on the factory fitted discs from 93. With just some braided lines, better brake fluid and pads.If you can get some ducting in to help cool them would be good and aim for a softer compound pad that wont destroy your rotors and they will last longer than you think..

my times aren't killer but they are respectable and I can fly down the straights which is still awesome fun..just have to brake a bit earlier than the guys with good brakes

[89CAL]

A cheap upgrade like some RDA slotted rotors and some new pads will help a fair bit for the price.

It's about all I have and my brakes feel really good. Obviously not going to be stopping like a Formula 1 car, but still pretty damn good

[Duncan]

They are absolutely fine. I ran stock brakes on my 33 gtst for about 3 years of track days. The trick is to run good tyres, plus I didn't have a lot of power. And a dot5 fluid like motul rbf600.

On the other hand, the d2 kit is very cheap and performs very well....keeping in mind it comes with pads, rotors and braided lines, and the rotors are 2 piece so cheaper to replace when that does come up

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

brake stopper, braided lines and decent fluid should help

[ARTZ]

They are absolutely fine. I ran stock brakes on my 33 gtst for about 3 years of track days. The trick is to run good tyres, plus I didn't have a lot of power. And a dot5 fluid like motul rbf600.

On the other hand, the d2 kit is very cheap and performs very well....keeping in mind it comes with pads, rotors and braided lines, and the rotors are 2 piece so cheaper to replace when that does come up

I was amazed how much difference putting on a well used set of 03Gs dunlops made to my stopping... even when cold they just dig in...

[simpletool]

I think some simple air guides would help quite a lot. Coupled with a cross-over pad like DS2500 or A1RM pads. Next step would be HC+ pads, which can be driven on the street (weekend car).

GKTech have the R33 adapters to 324mm back on the drawing board.

With decent tyres you won't have to wipe off so much speed for corner entry. The brakes are probably good enough for most Aussie tracks for R33 up to 250-260rwkw, with appropriate pads.

Edited January 7, 2013 by simpletool

[Roy]

If your std rotors are fine thickness wise then dont upgrade them. The std rotors are better than most aftermarket rotors you will throw on so dont waste your money. IF they are undersized then replace them with whatever generic rotor you can get cheaply.

THE BIGGEST change you will do to your brakes is the pad you run. Do you have ABS and do you like realy bitey pads or do you like needing a lot of pedal effort? Something up spec like Endless CCX will go a long way to giving you braking feel and bight you didnt think possible with std brakes, which when combined with good fluid makes a big difference.

If your lines are in good nic dont bother with braided lines as they are an expense you can live without. f youc an do all the labour yourself and get good braided lines cheaply then throw them on...but dont spend $500 on them through a workshop as whilst they are a good thing...that money is better spent elsewhere on the car...ie tyres

[HR32GTS 4DOOR]

GKtech Do braided lines for $119 I have a set they are well made and adr approved. And as said before they do the calliper spacers for $99

[GTSBoy]

And as said before they do the calliper spacers for $99

Once again - these do not suit R33 calipers.

[HR32GTS 4DOOR]

Could get 32mm rotors to fit, but then may as well just buy a big brake kit anyway

[eightsixboy]

Thanks for the replies.

My car has ABS which while good for the street is prob not the best for the track, or so I've heard.

I need to measure my rotors, hopefully they can take machine and just replace the pads and lines, I would really like to use the 324mm rotors, just sucks theres no brackets for them yet to make it worth the $$$.

Has anyone heard of TRW pads? I saw a set on ebay, there only $130 or so and the guy said there almost as good as red stuff''s for light track work just half the price.

[GTSBoy]

Could get 32mm rotors to fit, but then may as well just buy a big brake kit anyway

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the length of the caliper legs is different. If you put R33 calieprs onto the dogbones intended for R32/S15 calipers, then you need something like 340mm rotors.

[Plattsy]

GKtech Do braided lines for $119 I have a set they are well made and adr approved. And as said before they do the calliper spacers for $99

119 per corner or for the whole car?

[Frosty]

Thanks for the replies.

My car has ABS which while good for the street is prob not the best for the track, or so I've heard.

I need to measure my rotors, hopefully they can take machine and just replace the pads and lines, I would really like to use the 324mm rotors, just sucks theres no brackets for them yet to make it worth the $$$.

Has anyone heard of TRW pads? I saw a set on ebay, there only $130 or so and the guy said there almost as good as red stuff''s for light track work just half the price.

intima pads are awesome for the money, actually prefer them over most of the others

[HR32GTS 4DOOR]

119 per corner or for the whole car?

Whole Car. They are made by HEL then branded as GKtech

[HR32GTS 4DOOR]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the length of the caliper legs is different. If you put R33 calieprs onto the dogbones intended for R32/S15 calipers, then you need something like 340mm rotors.

Even better, bigger rotors

[Plattsy]

Whole Car. They are made by HEL then branded as GKtech

just buy direct from gktech online?

[HR32GTS 4DOOR]

just buy direct from gktech online?

Yeah I just got them online, good service too answered all my questions

http://www.gktech.com/index.php/s13-s14-s15-r32-r33-braided-brake-lines-front-rear-set-intro-price.html

[Plattsy]

ahhhh linky. thats what i was after! cheers bro!