STATUS Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 We see it week in week out... a customer gets told the cheap Chinese coils are no different to the OEM or splitfire range of coil packs well i can tell you they are. I see at least one set of the 3 generic brands on the Australian market fail each week and here is the latest.... these are new 70-100 kilometer old ATOMIC coilpacks breaking down at 17psi. .. dropped in set new std ones and a set of 40,000km old splitfire coil packs and bingo 80rwkw gain... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahtone Racing Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Love the old "I need new coils cause stock ones are shit" *customer then turns up with shitty chinese coils and a big smile* Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6778546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbla Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I've had splifires in since 2005,never missed a beat. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6778630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 This post is valuable - look, listen and LEARN Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRickard Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Where do yellow jackets sit in this discussion? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus89 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Where do yellow jackets sit in this discussion? From what I have gathered they are a helluva lot better than those Atomic or whatever the hell ebay specials up there but not as reliable as splitfires. theres a thread comparing all the ones of any interest here: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/187108-jjr-coil-packs-vs-oem-vs-splitfire-vs-other/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copycutter Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Where do yellow jackets sit in this discussion? +1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostn0199 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yellow jackets are the same as ebay ones there still hit and miss you always read about people having them fail on them, there not reliable like std or spitfires. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR-N1 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Darron at Just Jap had once just sold a set of Splitfires > within 2 days there was misfiring > they were sent off for warranty > warranty claim declined (for reasons unknown to me). So even Splitfires can have a glitch or two. Super Spark are the only brand I've known to honour a warranty claim - just about regardless - within the time limit. I still use Splitfires tho' Companies which wriggle out of warranties by any means, make my blood boil. A bad batch of Bosch 044 pumps are cases in point. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I had 15yr old stock coils in my GTR, making 370rwkw day in, day out. Track days, hill runs etc. OEM FTW. Pay a tad more, last twice as long... Economy says they will be cheaper in the long run Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Despite the above I do have a reasonable level of faith/respect for the yellow jacket coils and their suppliers.The suppliers on this forum actually send out a batch of the product to have it tested in the real world by regular users. Given that there will still be a failure here and there that is a good way of getting a feel for the product and its worth in the market. As such I wont write off the yellow jackets just yet, most people do fine out of them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Where do yellow jackets sit in this discussion? Same bucket as the others. OEM or SPLITFIRE are the only real options. i have thrown out so many other brands of coil packs its crazy.. generally they always die just out of warranty or on the second owner as most guys honestly dont own imports much longer than 2 years.... so on average these chinese branded coil packs last about the same amount of kms as a set of copper spark plugs lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.I.Y. Mik Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Glad i kept my oem ones in the shed. Getting a nistune and pump etc soon, we will see how it goes ay? Same bucket as the others. OEM or SPLITFIRE are the only real options. i have thrown out so many other brands of coil packs its crazy.. generally they always die just out of warranty or on the second owner as most guys honestly dont own imports much longer than 2 years.... so on average these chinese branded coil packs last about the same amount of kms as a set of copper spark plugs lol You said the cheapos break down at high boost....If im not chasing big power will yellows be ok? Or is it time/heat that kills them? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I think it's partly a quality issue too. So many people I have spoken to say 5/6 work. Painfull to get 1 replaced from supplier Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Warranty and china stuff Lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Companies which wriggle out of warranties by any means, make my blood boil. A bad batch of Bosch 044 pumps are cases in point. I hear ya Scum of the earth Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 I think it's partly a quality issue too. So many people I have spoken to say 5/6 work. Painfull to get 1 replaced from supplier You end up chasing your tail, replace the dead one then month later another falls over and the cycle starts over. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copycutter Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Status, I was always of the opinion that coils works or didn't work. But this dyno chart above shows that they can appear to be "working" but just producing way less than expected. Have you seen this with other types of coilpack mentioned above? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Status, I was always of the opinion that coils works or didn't work. But this dyno chart above shows that they can appear to be "working" but just producing way less than expected. Have you seen this with other types of coilpack mentioned above? No its actually the opposite the coils will work fine until they are required to work under high load.. then the missfire. Car ran fine at 12psi but could not light the fires above 16psi Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranman Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I've been meaning to share my experience. It's been a positive one regarding the purchase of performance coilpacks off ebay. I'm not arguing the validity of claims made in OP nor quick to jump to conclusions around speding the big $ for quality. Everyone knows you get what you pay for. This view may help those thinking of buying second hand. Given my budget I was rather disenchanted with paying big dollars for second-hand brandname coils - generally some only seemed to be a 20% discount to what you would buy new. To put things in perspective: 1. They're second hand. 2. Private sellers do not necessarily have a reputation to uphold or trade as a business. 3. Km's and/or their performance for the parts are generally unverified 4. No warranty 5. Recourse for disputes generally don't exist. 20% discount doesn't seem very attractive after-taking the above into consideration, a risk I would avoid all together and simply buy new if I could have afforded it. The ones I use claim to have a 2-year warranty. Local Aussie seller. Recourse in Aus. - replacement. Ebay Powerseller 99.8% feedback. I currently make 260rkw with them. $265 NEW and am currently very happy. Happy to answer any questions. Not interested in people knocking me for using them. I'm simply spelling out better alternatives to secondhand. -knock the ones selling second hand ones at a 20-25% discount to new. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/421392-dont-be-fooled-into-buying-cheap-coil-packs/#findComment-6779890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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