Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hi all,

Just wondering which one should cost more, a modded GTR or a stock GTR.

I have been told that it is good to get a GTR that has not had its engine opened...but again, getting a modded GTR means you get all the goodies...

Which one is the best to go for?

Thanks all.

Lav

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/422426-mod-vs-stock-gtr/
Share on other sites

I spent a long time looking for a stock example, in the hope that it has had an easier life.

Paid a premium compred to what worked R34 GTR's would have cost me at the time, however I was more so after condition, rather than a half complete jig saw puzzle.

f**k that. Look for one that's been done properly, a searchable history, all the receipts, and where the car is known by a lot of people. Buying stock to just waste your life and money modifying with no return is not a good choice IMO. Find one done and done properly.

f**k that. Look for one that's been done properly, a searchable history, all the receipts, and where the car is known by a lot of people. Buying stock to just waste your life and money modifying with no return is not a good choice IMO. Find one done and done properly.

Amen to that. Saved myself a lot of money and hassle buying a modded car that was well looked after and getting it how I like it, rather than doing it myself. So it all comes down to what your plans are.

Also for the record, I really dont reckon km's are a gauge of condition.

different views...interesting...

i guess getting a modded one is valuable for the money and effort to run around and doing it on ur own but getting a stock one and do it up yourself is good as you know what you did and the parts you used, plus where it was done...

will like to know how many will go for modded vs stock...

Chime in to say I looked for stock because I wanted to reduce the risks and mod at my pace. Buying a modded one means you take the risks associated assuming it has been done correctly. Also, a modded car normally needs more attention and ongoing maintenance, attracts sometimes unwanted attention, and insurance issues.

In saying that I have kept my car the same as I bought it as I just can't bring myself to ruin her :)

A stock 32 would be worth more than a modded one I'd say these days.

Simple question; are you eventually going to modify the car or are you going to keep it stock for as long as you own it?

If the latter, buy stock. If the former, buy modified. Modifications add up farking quick when you do them yourself. Before you know it, you'll have spent what the car cost you, on mods alone. Whatever extra maintenance or repairs are involved in an already modified vehicle will pale in comparison to the cost of getting it there in the first place. Ask anyone who has poured thousands into their cars - they (myself included) will tell you that, if they could go back, they'd buy an already modified example. It's just not worth it in the end and only when your priorities change do you realise this.

Remember that a lot of people selling modified cars are just like you...these cars are their babies...so it does not necessarily mean the car has been thrashed or there's something wrong with it. People get bored and move on in life. I've had friends pick up absolute bargains over the years (220fwkw N14 pulsars for a few grand etc). On the contrary, if the modifications have been done correctly (poly suspension bushes for example), they can save you repairs you would have otherwise had to do on a stock vehicle.

Whatever you choose, just get it inspected thoroughly and try to find out as much info as you can. Buying from someone on SAU is a good start, as often you can find threads they've made about the car for repairs and modifications; see the history etc.

There is no way a stock GTR, that is going to be driven (ie non collectable) should be worth more than a modded car with a similar service history and condition.

There are very few 'stock' GTR's. If it 'looks' stock, it likely hasn't been in the past. Not always, but very likely.

It's no brainer, buy modified over stock any day.

If you chose to go stock route, thing breaks, you end up modify it anyway. May as well buy off someone after they'd pour $$$ on it before moving on and you just enjoy it.

I'd say make a choice based on what you want the car for.

If I wanted a toy, or track car, I'd be looking at something pre-modded.

Whereas I wanted a clean daily, so I went for a pretty stock option.

Also depends on yourself... I enjoy doing as much on my car as I can and learning in the process, whereas some mates aren't fussed and would prefer to pay a shop to mod.

Stock car has more chance of being reliable than a modded car if that matters to you.

That's a very broad statement. Stock cars can be even more unreliable, it's whether the car is looked after that determines the cars reliability. Not what mods it had.

Assumes that all stock cars are reliable / have been taken care of^

What if the car has been returned to standard for sale (as is the case with a lot of "never boosted" cars)? You wouldn't be able to tell the difference. So not only do you have the "unreliability" of a modified vehicle, but none of the bonus mods to go with it. And you probably paid more for an "unmolested" example ;)

People who buy 15-20 year old stock cars thinking they're more reliable than modified probably also believe the 80,000km on the dash are legitimate too, lol

That's a very broad statement. Stock cars can be even more unreliable, it's whether the car is looked after that determines the cars reliability. Not what mods it had.

This. Get any car checked out. Investigate any mods. My car is heavily modified and in perfect running order; better mechanical condition than 90% of GTS-T out there. There's 6-7k in bolt on mods alone, that could be removed and sold if you wanted it factory again. You'd be an idiot to pick a standard example over it, if both were going for the same price.

I've always bought close to stock and modded myself, that way you can do what you want and how you want it.

sure its going to work out more in the long run, but you can have it set how you want, parts you want.

at the end its down to personal preference..

and on stock being more reliable.. remember the JUN R33 lemon - clarkson drove it and mentioned it had never once broken down.. that thing was modded as much as you can get..

in my opinion you can normally pick up a stock one cheaper also.

though if you want to go the modded route and save $$ - buy already modded i guess..

defintly get a modded gtr. as long as compression test comes up good and no leaks youve got yourself a freak. ive seen cars thrashed for years and still going. then a car babied all its life then a bit of boost. nek minnit. fail

condition of body is most important

Oooo such an easy question to answer... if you plan to modify it, just go talk to any gtr owner - theyll tell you to buy a clean one that's already modified. You'll save a truckload of cash. I once read that you couldn't afford to own a GTR unless you could afford to buy 2. I've owned mine for 10 months, bought it with some clean mods and already spent another 20k on it which I'll never see again

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Yeah I suspect even if you hold airmass per cycle/cylinder constant if you get too far away from stock you're still going to have problems running the factory tune within the bounds of the factory load scale. Cams, different displacement/rod ratio, etc. I'm just lucky that the GTIII-SS with wastegate boost + CA compliance cats is pretty much equivalent to stock turbos. When I have actual space I can finally get it tuned and modify the fuel system for flex fuel to 100% handle any detonation concerns when cranking the boost to whatever those dinky turbos can put out.
    • I would say no, why, because my daughter, who also lives in Goulburn, hasn't recommended us going there Pity, as we miss all the German joints around in Sydney, actually, the restaurants are the only thing I really miss about Sydney, and a special mention to Ishibanboshi at Bondi Junction, their Kara-age Don is heart cloggingly deliciousness (always added a special boiled egg...or 2) 😋 
    • Does that German restaurant still exist in the old place out the NW end of Goulburn? When I say "out the NW end of"...I am really being vague. It was 1997 when I was last there, and the only point of reference I can recall is that it was on the opposite side of the main drag from the big merino. And when I say "opposite side of the main drag", I don't mean "on the main drag". It was either a couple of streets back from there, or might have even been out in the sticks a bit further. Was an old farm building or mill or somesuch. And when I say "the big merino" I might actually be thinking of a completely different part of town, because I just looked on maps and the big bugger is not where I remembered him to be! The food was good, consisting largely of various German mystery-meat sausage/loaf things and kartofflen.
    • So while the second sentence is completely correct and the whole point of the conversation, the first sentence bears consideration. If this bloke is just hoping to throw big turbos on and drive it around, because there are no helpful facilities at all in his tropical paradise** then he likely has zero chance of even knowing what the TP is on the last column in the stock maps, let alone know whether the ECU is operating anywhere near it or past it. So the point is very very moot. And, per what I said before, at stock boost on those turbos, you may well be off the end of the map. **I'm just back from Vanuatu, so I know exactly what small Pacific nations can be like wrt paradise without requisite facilities. But it's not even that simple. I put a high flow on my car and had to drive it around without a proper tune because of the lack of opportunity*** to put the bigger AFM and injectors into it to allow it to be tuned. I had to turn the boost down to less than I had before, and back off the boost controller's ramp, because it was exploring parts of the map that it didn't drive in before, and really couldn't access for tuning on the dyno either, and so was pinging. It was still well within the last column, because when I first**** set up the Nistune on the Neo I rescaled all axes of the maps to give some more space to explore. ***Family dyno was broken ****This was 13 years ago, and the TIM thing wasn't a thing then and so TP would definitely grow when pushing past the stock tune's limits.
    • Yep, this bit another local owner. I caught it before putting the transmission back into the car, what I noticed was the pressure plate fingers weren't flat and even. It's more obvious with the pull style clutch because the throwout bearing ring was visibly not flat once everything is put together. Nismo should really update their instructions to call out this specific detail. I'm not even sure the clutch as-shipped orients everything properly.
×
×
  • Create New...