Getting A Rwc On A Modified Car.

[KezR33]

Hey guys,

I'm about to buy a car but the seller is having difficulty getting a rwc due to the modifications. He's offering a significant discount if I take it without a rwc.

I don't fully understand the rwc process. One of the main issues on this car is that it has upgraded brakes and no engineers cert for this mod. If I were to get a rwc from a shop, what would they do? Replace the standard brakes, sign a form, then put the upgraded ones back on?

What's to stop them from simply saying the brakes were standard when they signed the form? Is there a way Vicroads can police it or check it out?

Can anyone provide some insight into the process?

Cheers.

[paulr33]

im not convinced they would check that they have been upgraded and nor would they care

they do a stopping test to ensure the car pulls up correctly at speeds and other than that, i cant see why it would fail the brake test or brakes

its a different story when you goto vicroads with the roadworthy cert for a new rego and they do the inpsection

they might go hey why does this have ap racing 6 pots on the front when it should have 4 or they might not even notice (or care)

[KezR33]

The shop we took it to which has a reputation for giving easy RWC knocked it back on the fact it had big front brakes without the engineers cert.

Reckon I fix everything else and take it elsewhere?

[ARTZ]

  On 27/03/2013 at 9:43 AM, KezR33 said:

Reckon I fix everything else and take it elsewhere?

yup...if you still get duped just borrow some stock brakes form someone.....

[Iron Mike]

  On 27/03/2013 at 9:43 AM, KezR33 said:

The shop we took it to which has a reputation for giving easy RWC knocked it back on the fact it had big front brakes without the engineers cert.

LOL it obviously wasn't that easy!! To get RWCs now (unlike in the good old days) photos of everything must be taken - including the brakes. Aftermarket brakes look quite different to factory brakes so maybe that's what the workshop pulled you up on - they were afraid of getting busted for okaying something obvious like that

[Dan_J]

usually rwc places like bigger brakes etc but now we cant have good brakes to stop. VIC = fail

[alex182]

as Iron Mike said, the guidelines around handing out willy nilly rwc's is a lot stricter nowadays. They need photo records for everything they pass

[dkbcleaner]

So how easy is it to get a eng certificate for aftermarket brakes?

[dan.1337]

Didn't realise that photos were needed for everything now. Maybe that's why the price of RWCs have gone up so much since a few years ago.

Best to go through the sheet that tells you what needs to be done, repair/replace/return those parts to stock, get a RWC, then put the go/stop fast bits back on.

[mark33gtst]

As far as getting photos of everything they pass that is incorrect. In fact a dodgy RWC is not much harder to write out now then before. If i were writing out a dodgy rwc (which i don't) i would avoid taking photos of the modifications. Then as before you still have the argument that it was modified after it left the rwc check. RWC testers are only encouraged to take photos of things you believe may be modified after the car leaves.

If in Kierans case i was doing a rwc i would probably put standard wheels on it. Take one photo of the car on the hoist, one photo of the standard wheel (on the rear where he has standard brakes), one of the odometer, one of the vin stamped into the body and one of the rego label. Showing no proof of the Mods. As the car is registered already (i think) you would not have to visit vic roads for an inspection anyway.

The new photo system has got everyone scared but in practice its no worse than before.

In saying that you still need to find someone who is willing to risk their and their business licence.

[KezR33]

  On 20/04/2013 at 12:10 AM, mark33gtst said:

If in Kierans case i was doing a rwc i would probably put standard wheels on it.

I wish it were that easy. Anyone have rims that are 17" or smaller, will clear the 6 pot front brakes and won't stick out of the guards?

As for the rest of it, I just sourced most of the stock parts I need and we're putting it back to standard. Intercooler and brakes are the biggest issue, but I have all the parts so its just the labour to swap it over then swap it back.

[mark33gtst]

If it were a dodgy just put one standard on the rear take the photo of only that wheel. But it seems your not going that route anyway. Best to put it back to standard then..

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

good god... better brakes on a car.....