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Roy
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Tragic isnt it

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Hoping he can do for 888 what he did for Williams & McLaren.

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daaaaaaaaaaaymn hitting that tonight aswell? joises

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Tool had better smarten his act up if he wants to be kept on as Dans #2 next year. Probably cost him a podium with that bullshit.

McLaren - slowest of the Merc runners. Hope Honda has something special for next year.

I like Dan as much as the next guy, but I think that was a fair call by Seb. They weren't on completely different strategies/tyres so thats racing, so the team orders should have been ignored.

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x2. Seb showed at Bahrain he'll do the right thing and let the other guy through if they're on different strategies, but if they're racing for position, its a race. Dan was easily good enough though. He's a real surprise packet for me this year. They mentioned during the race he's probably more used to having to fight cars with less downorce, but you'd expect Vettel to have got the hang of these cars by now if he's going to. Also Dans wet pace is really surprising. As team mates, JEV normally had his measure in the wet, but this year Dan's right on it in wet conditions. He's stepped it up and all signs are he's got Vettel's measure in qualy and racing. Impressive!

Good interesting race. I was expecting Red Bull to be a bit closer to the Mercs with Renault saying they're now at very close to peak performance in the lead up to this race. And Lotus getting the same Renault engine spec that Red Bull had last round certainly helped them in qualy. But it was Alonso outta nowhere as the big improver! Where did his pace come from? Lucky he didn't take himself out at the start though.

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Funny. Snowman said as a joke that the first question for Jev this year should be "what do you hope to achieve in your last season of F1?"

Ted Kravitz is already talking about a paddock rumour that a mid season STR driver change is being entertained unless JEV finds pace.

Kyvat has been impressive given age, kms and experience of F1.

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Everyone is all for team orders when it's to help an Australian...

I think Vettel was well within his rights to ignore the order this time.

It depends on what is said in the briefing prior to the race. If they agree to it Reuteman style and then change their minds when it suits them then they deserve all the vitriol heaped upon them. Red Bull cant have not discussed it, surely?

Just interested to see how the dynamic works for Tool now that he is the second quickest driver in the team. Kind of reduces your leverage that does. Atleast we dont have to go back to Ferrari style team orders.

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what i have a problem is, is fom released chat from red bull saying 'let dan through', then vettel asks what tyres hes on, and says the 'tough luck' call, but for vettel then to 'concede' the position as he said after the race you have to assume the team must have said something again to him about the differing strategies, something that either never aired on the tv to cause all this drama or vettel didnt want to concede and dan passed him anyway... and then didnt want it to look like dan passed him anyway....

unless there was more radio traffic that i missed?

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Everyone is all for team orders when it's to help an Australian...

I think Vettel was well within his rights to ignore the order this time.

I think the fact that dan was able to get past and then pull a gap and stay away, and that it was still early in the race showed that the call was made right and vettel should've just let him go a bit more easily, although it ended up being an easy pass since he went too deep into turn 1 and ended up on the dirty outside line.

Had Dan been struggling the same as vettel then I'd not be upset if he was told to move over. If it was in the last few laps then it may be a different story and I'd take that on a case by case situation, but with 32 laps to go, get out of the way. The faster car has right of way.

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Everyone is all for team orders when it's to help an Australian...

I think Vettel was well within his rights to ignore the order this time.

Well you can take me off that list of everyone. Don't think youbwill read me having said anything....was funny though...at least Vettel snuck a funny line in

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