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I want to get out of technical work and go into an I.T PM role before becoming a 'senior' don't think I've got it in me to continue down the tech path forever. 
No one wants to listen to a 27 y/o boss them around though, I still gotta do some courses too to get in the door

Anyone can warm a seat for 10-20yrs and claim it as 'experience', it's what you achieve in that time which counts. You could achieve more in 5yrs than someone who ticks-thru 20yrs.

If your time spent has provided you the capability to perform the role don't write it off due to a number, be it age or #yrs working.

If you can prove your worth now to your direct-reports rather than falling back on what you did in the past, you will come out with respect no matter of your age.
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Anyone can warm a seat for 10-20yrs and claim it as 'experience', it's what you achieve in that time which counts. You could achieve more in 5yrs than someone who ticks-thru 20yrs.

Try telling that to HR who filter the applications and weed out the ones who don't "meet" the requirements.
Or trying to get through recruitment agency word search filters.

All of whom don't give a f**k about references or achievements or milestones.
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Cover letter most important^

If you quantify in words your experience due to the quality of your work and level of involvement, you'll easily shoot over someone who says they've been in the game for 10 years but can't put into words what that means because they've warmed a seat and never done anything exceptional. Time of experience is also easy to lie about and good HR managers know this.

Time is also generally correlated with experience even if there are outliers like go getters and seat warmers, so you need inventive ways to be considered over the others.

Also, sif work for a company that purely values quantitative experience over quality...that's a sure way for your hard work to result in someone else's promotion because they're "overdue" for it / are next in line...consider their filtration of you a filtration of them too.

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15 hours ago, Rekin said:


Anyone can warm a seat for 10-20yrs and claim it as 'experience', it's what you achieve in that time which counts. You could achieve more in 5yrs than someone who ticks-thru 20yrs.

If your time spent has provided you the capability to perform the role don't write it off due to a number, be it age or #yrs working.

If you can prove your worth now to your direct-reports rather than falling back on what you did in the past, you will come out with respect no matter of your age.

True that, it's more me not getting off my ass and doing a course or doing something different to side step down the management path rather than technical. 

Plan has always been do technical stuff till about 30 so I've got a solid 10 years experience then re-evaluate what I wanna do in my 30s career wise.

I know I'm listing numbers but I dunno, in IT seems like everything changed once I had 5 years experience under my belt, that could just be like you said by achieving more in that time than others with 20 yrs experience.. man some of these old guys have NFI how shit works..

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12 minutes ago, Leroy Peterson said:

1999? I remember that thing.
The Matrix, Y2K, Red Hot Chili Peppers.

pls

The matrix confirmed the year was 2199 and 1999 was simply a construct of the machines, Y2k was in 2000 and the Chilli Peppers peaked in 1991 with the release of Blood Sugar Sex Magic

1999 was all about Futurama 

26 minutes ago, joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo said:

pls

The matrix confirmed the year was 2199 and 1999 was simply a construct of the machines, Y2k was in 2000 and the Chilli Peppers peaked in 1991 with the release of Blood Sugar Sex Magic

1999 was all about Futurama 

And Hard Kandy

Just got a gas bill more than 3x of any bill in the last 12months, the charges go all the way to step-3 off peak.

 

Only gas appliances are heater and hot water. Heater is disconnected electrically and was serviced in winter. I was away from home 4 nights a week from Jan to Feb, then overseas for a month.

I'm reading that sometimes gas companies to 'catch-up' bills if they get their estimation wrong?

I'll check the gas meter when I get home, but if the figures are similar, ain't shit I can do?

 

Went from 27MJ a day to 147MJ a day. No leaks that I know of...

 

 

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