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50 minutes ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Probably the most quiet mildly powered R33 one has heard, the solid lifters are louder than the exhaust lol

 

You have no idea the ratio of "Engine and Gearbox Sound relative to Exhaust sound" that are out there, I can raise you tenfold with the symphony of brick-in-washing-machine sounds the LS and T56 make.

This car is mint, and is far more interesting than any stock BMW, and likely a much better car too, not to mention far more rare/street creddy if that is your thing.

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29 minutes ago, ActionDan said:

Don't agree, I think he will love it when it happens, it'll only be how much $$ he loses on the 33 that he remembers lol 

Dan is correct!

 

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Last night you would see the M cars & Euro cars push into turns later, brake later, etc. They were having fun, albeit there were sheets of water on the track.

Meanwhile all the 90s JDM shit boxes without any stability/traction control etc. were literally cruising around the track. Luckily enough I have working ABS so could brake a bit later than others.

15 minutes ago, Jasoncauser said:

would you take the Beemer on the track? or would it be too precious?

I would take it to the track, think about the amount of money I've spent on my shit box - it's comparable.

Also I would rather push it on the track instead of on the streets or twisty roads, etc.

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I think more seat time you will be close to euro guys. 

After talking with some of the QLD time attack guys that went down a few weeks ago it sounds like it's racing for sheep stations down there. The euro cars definitely have the upper hand straight up.

 

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37 minutes ago, robbo_rb180 said:

I think more seat time you will be close to euro guys. 

At Wakefield, on a dry day I was only a few seconds behind them, but once the track conditions are not optimum you can really see the gap widen!

These guys are abusing the stability control, traction, ABS like crazy (I would too).

It's not just safety tech.

Modern chassis are superior all round, what you get in a "road" car these days is akin to what was a race car previously in terms of chassis stiffness, anti-squat geo, king pin inclination bump steer correction etc etc

Suspension kinematics are vastly improved all round, ignoring specific alignment settings like cabmer/castor. 

An equally tired 86, even with a bit less power is faster than an S-chassis around a 1min per lap track with both drivers being of roughly equal skill. the 86 chassis is head and shoulders better in every way. It was only when we went to Winton that had a few straights I could use the power of the CA to pick up some cheap lap time. 

On anything tight/twisty, the 86s kill S-Chassis and MX5. Just one comparison. 

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2 minutes ago, ActionDan said:

Modern chassis are superior all round, what you get in a "road" car these days is akin to what was a race car previously in terms of chassis stiffness, anti-squat geo, king pin inclination bump steer correction etc etc

That pretty much sums it up!

The casual M2 guys at Wakefield before literally just threw on semis, better pads, a tune off their phone, 1/3 of an exhaust system and they're doing 1m5~8s.

 

Better low/mid-range power for a given capacity/engine config vs the 90s and the ability to put it down and carry it through corners from the factory floor is hard to beat. 

 

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