Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

It's too much for an R33, but then I'm not into cruise ships.

Your 30-32k is over AU$50k. There would be R33s changing hands over here for that much. And as Ben said, it's not a normal R33 - it is quite worked over. And whilst we say that mods add no value, the reality is that they do - just not as much as the seller would like.

Buy it. Don't daily it. You will be fine.

Expect to lose money on it if you do not sell it before the prices crash again. We have maybe 10 years until fossil fuel cars become difficult propositions. Collector only, Sunday only, that sort of thing. With the market eventually stripped of people who want to drive them around a lot, the prices cannot stay high forever.

  • Like 1
15 hours ago, Benrobinson said:

@Ben C34 @robbo_rb180 @BK @GTSBoy @PranK @Murray_Calavera  morning all I am in the UK. Thanks for all your replies. 
sorry for posting on your forum but the UK ones are shite.  
The person who built the engine is one of the best in the uk to my knowledge. I am not going to be using the 850hp on methanol. I’ll be using a safe 500/600hp. Won’t be thrashing it. Why because I want to look after it. Why am I buying it? Because who doesn’t want a skyline ?! The whole car is immaculate. Underneath paintwork everything. Can I add pictures here ? 
 

the main reason for the thread was. I wanted to know weather I’m going to spend every weekend in the garage or can I actually enjoy this car? will this car do 100k miles. If not what will need replacing. I not a drifter. Nor am I a crazy Driver. 
 

again thanks guys all responses are helpful negative or positive. Cheers. 

Nono, don't be sorry about posting here. Nobody gives a crap where you're from, we were just trying to figure it out.

For the record, if you're not planning on driving it hard, surely you can get a super nice streeter with a few extra ponies for less than this built one? You'd have less long term issues and probs cheaper to maintain.

  • Like 1

I'm wondering how you got the dude to drop 8k (or $14,000 AUD) ! That's alarm bells for me!

It does look nice! Great colour and wheels combo. But as Ben said, its more than an E9x M3!!! 😮

 

  • Like 1

This is the car being built...
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CddpIM_pzIB/
here's the social account for Jordan, who owns Motion Autoworks and the car, with a build log:

https://www.tiktok.com/@jm_barnard
he's had the workshop since 2020, so you'd assume the car's only been built in the last 2 years.

SCR-20230119-f6c.thumb.jpeg.380adecc9e82992b2b4cb3b40c6bcba7.jpeg

couple of pics of it being well looked after:

SCR-20230119-f8b.thumb.jpeg.51de8b078bfbe671eb1392928cd6f6e0.jpeg

SCR-20230119-faw.thumb.jpeg.bd07a9943acf5343207e1295f17caf4f.jpeg

he's moved on to building an Evo, so he obviously needs the cash for it.

the car itself is well built using commonly used but quality parts. that's good because if there's any failures you can just go get a replacement part. it doesn't look like there's any bespoke custom built parts. the car is built to withstand 900hp hooning around, so if you treat it well and don't thrash it like the previous owner, and also if you run it detuned on petrol instead of metho, you should be fine from a reliability point of view as the stress on the upgraded parts won't be as much. however if you're going to be pushing it to its limits then expect to need to refresh those parts regularly.

the good thing is that you can always take it back to the guy who built it, providing you maintain a good relationship with him. This then comes to the price, if you lowball him on price he'll obviously try to recoup any perceived losses in the maintenance. Pay a fair price and make a friend and you'll enjoy not just a nice car but someone who can help you take care of it.

As for the price itself, the price of skylines is volatile in Aus, so it's pretty hard to comment. we've got no context of the UK, so any commentary would be speculative. have a look around for a standard GTS25t of the same year etc and take that as your base price. Then add all the labour costs. If the mechanic was good with his cashflow or has a good accountant he'd have written all the parts cost off as a business cost. So really his lowest price that he cannot go below is base price of car plus labour cost. Keep in mind the cost of the car would have been low if he purchased it with a blown motor or something that prompted the build in the first place. Plus there's primer on the chassis above the front right wheel, so that hints at a crash at some point. It's concerning that the car has a red chassis and grey panels, so you'd assume it's had a very rough past. However, in the hands of this mechanic it's really been restored to like-new.

other things you can do to help build a relationship and lower the price... this car has obviously been a passion project for Jordan who use premium parts to build what in his mind would have been a demonstration of his abilities as a mechanic... much like a dealer demo car that comes loaded with all the options to make you fall in love with the model. this is his workshop demo car. that means he's not goign to build a hand-grenade that's fragile, he'll build something he can stake his reputation as a new workshop on.

ask him if the car can have his workshop name stuck to it, and ask for a bunch of business cards so you can send business his way. also commit to going along with him in the car that he built to any shows and events to help him promote the business.

then ask for a discount :D

@funkymonkey  thanks for such a great response. I actually went up to motion auto works and went out in it the other day. He was a top bloke. Garage was clean. Car was brilliant. The car was originally red. He painted it himself which he hasn’t done a bad job at all! He’s more than happy to maintain the car and I did think exactly that if I low ball him he may want to get the money back when maintaining it. But he seems like genuine honest lad. All seems well. I have pictures of the underneath I’d like to post. Looks dam clean to me!  Thanks for you replies just need to decide if I’m going to pull the trigger 

09D69621-80F5-4D09-B5A1-A3036E2EE45F.jpeg

BB8FFA0B-9F25-4B40-A5DC-6EFB87DDB067.jpeg

8A9CFC8A-83F2-4F67-AAA1-3E7C0FBB3AB9.jpeg

3C8EFFF7-F3FB-49B9-90F2-83AF9E4467A4.jpeg

  • Like 1

Sounds like a good arrangement to me. :) No opinion on the car itself, I don't know enough to judge it.

I would put it like this: If you are concerned about reliability, buying a heavily modified car sounds like a terrible idea. Especially if you don't have the experience to work on it or there are no good workshops around or there are no funds to pay for the work.

But, considering that the car was built by a workshop and they are nearby this sounds pretty sweet. They know the car inside and out, they know where to look for issues, and they will have ideas for future improvements down the line. And you can pay them to work and spend time on it. Reliability-wise I'd still be prepared to drop off the car there regularly and expect to spend on it accordingly. A look through the forums shows the kinds of issues that people get to deal with.

If you end up buying the car, please consider starting a build thread. Would love to hear how you go with it :)

  • 2 months later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • I've done this both ways, I'd use the original loom & swap plugs on the engine side as you'll usually end up changing a lot of those anyway. Series 1 is usually non ABS which requires wiring which I can't remember how to do as haven't done it for over 15 years. The auto inhibitor is easy to bypass or in the meantime you can put it in neutral & unbolt it & tape it somewhere in the bay haha, then just wire reverse lights. I'd go straight to aftermarket ecu. A few basics are built in ignitor coils & reverse the CAS wiring, sort the plugs for whatever injectors & IAC-you can use an adaptor for the neo type otherwise the s1 will still work, use the knock sensors that suit the loom & it'll be pretty much running.  
    • This is for an RB20DET. Sorry for not including that. 
    • Welp, this is where my compression lands after my rebuild. Thoughts? I have ~6 hours on the motor. 
    • Well, after the full circus this week (new gearbag, 14 psi actuator on, injectors and AFM upgraded, and.....turbo repair) the diagnosis on the wastegate is in. It was broken. It was broken in a really strange way. The weld that holds the lever arm onto the wastegate flapper shaft broke. Broke completely, but broke in such a way that it could go back together in the "correct" position, or it could rearrange itself somewhere else along the fracture plane and sit with the flapper not parallel to the lever. So, who knows how and when exactly what happened? No-one will ever know. Was it broken like this the first time it spat the circlip and wedged itself deep into the dump? Or was it only broken when I tried to pry it back into place? (I didn't try that hard, but who knows?). Or did it break first? Or did it break between the first and second event of wierdness? Meh. It doesn't matter now. It is welded back together. And it is now held closed by a 14 psi actuator, so...the car has been tuned with the supporting mods (and the order of operations there is that the supporting mods and dyno needed to be able to be done first before adding boost, because it was pinging on <<14 psi with the new turbo with only a 6 psi actuator). And then tuned up a bit, and with the boost controller turned off throughout that process. So it was only running WG pressure and so only hit about 15-16 psi. The turbo is still ever so slightly lazier than might be preferred - like it is still a bit on the big side for the engine. I haven't tested it on the road properly in any way - just driven it around in traffic for a half hour or so. But it is like chalk and cheese compared to what it was. Between dyno numbers and driving feedback: It makes 100 kW at 3k rpm, which is OK, could be better. That's stock 2JZ territory, or RB20 with G series 550. It actually starts building boost from 2k, which is certainly better than it did recently (with all the WG flapper bullshit). Although it's hard to remember what it was like prior to all that - it certainly seems much, much better. And that makes sense, given the WG was probably starting to blow open at anything above about 3 psi anyway (with the 6 psi actuator). It doesn't really get to "full boost" (say 16 psi) until >>4k rpm. I am hopeful that this is a feature of the lack of boost controller keeping boost pressure off the actuator, because it was turned off for the dyno and off for the drives afterward. There's more to be found here, I'm sure. It made 230 rwkW at not a lot more than 6k and held it to over 7k, so there seems to be plenty of potential to get it up to 250-260rwkW with 18 psi or so, which would be a decent effort, considering the stock sized turbo inlet pipework and AFM, and the return flow cooler. According to Tao, those things should definitely put a bit of a limit on it by that sort of number. I must stress that I have not opened the throttle 100% on the road yet - well, at least not 100% and allowed it to wind all the way up. It'll have to wait until some reasonable opportunity. I'm quite looking forward to that - it feels massively better than it has in a loooong time. It's back to its old self, plus about 20% extra powers over the best it ever did before. I'm going to get the boost controller set up to maximise spool and settle at no more than ~17 psi (for now) and then go back on the dyno to see what we can squeeze out of it. There is other interesting news too. I put together a replacement tube to fit the R35 AFM in the stock location. This is the first time the tuner has worked with one, because anyone else he has tuned for has gone from Z32 territory to aftermarket ECU. No-one has ever wanted to stay Nistuned and do what I've done. Anyway, his feedback is that the R35 AFM is super super super responsive. Tiny little changes in throttle position or load turn up immediately as a cell change on the maps. Way, way more responsive than any of the old skool AFMs. Makes it quite diffifult to tune as you have to stay right on top of that so you don't wander off the cell you wanted to tune. But it certainly seems to help with real world throttle response. That's hard to separate from all the other things that changed, but the "pedal feel" is certainly crisp.
×
×
  • Create New...