R33 Gts-t Auto Vs Manual

[andrew777]

Hi, can someone tell me the difference between an r33 gtst auto and manual performance wise. is the manual hugely faster or not really? do they both feel about the same in terms of acceleration?

Cheers.

oh, and how would an auto r33 gtst compare to say an r32 gtst manual and a manual vs commodore.

[paulr33]

manual will always be better and more fun

youll regret it if you buy an auto

the manual is much more exciting and gives you more of a driving experience

the auto will be slower and runs less boost factory as well

the manual will hold more value and probably easier to fix as its more common

[wizlb]

for my 2cents , go for the manual. it will allow you to take advantage of the turbo's power and have another to reduce your speed quickly with a manual. If you add any kind of mods you will wish you had a manual and like every person, the only time it is a problem is when you are shut in traffic.

Manul=184 @ the flywheel

With these mods: Apexi powerFC, boost control, FMIC, Walbro FP, 3" exhaust, split dump pipe= +195RWKW

[andrew777]

Yeah but how do they compare performance wise? The car im looking at is about $5000 cheaper than the same year and condition but manual, and theres no way i can afford that atm (or for the next four or so years). basically what im asking is, is a auto gtst skyline a lot slower than a manual or not? i drive an AU Falcon auto atm, how would it compare to that? I dont mind driving an auto, just wanna know about performance.

Oh, also, will i still get that nice pshhht between shifts with the auto?

Cheers.

[InterCooL]

automatic sports cars should only be for the disabled. are you disabled?

edit: ok so actual helpful infomation. power wise better to get manual. economic wise, better to get manual. maintenance cost wise, better to get manual. drive ability wise, better to get manual. for blow off valve "pshhhts" between shifts, only able to on manual.

Edited August 13, 2007 by InterCooL

[SECURITY]

i love my auto. ill find it hard to do a manual conversion unless i get taken away by the idea of making it a track car. the difference in performance isnt as bad as these bias mo-fo's make it out to be. it is a bit slower stock vs. stock. but once the mods start coming and you get some direct shifts (valve body upgrade, or emanage ultimate A/T control) you will be pulling some impressive times.

some people ask me, why auto????

i reply.. why manual??

i also have an m3 and it is manual - and i enjoy driving my skyline more than it.

i made 13.9 1/4 mile with a fmic, exhaust and pod...... and some shitty starts with some shitty el-cheapo 215's. guys with manuals with the same mods are making 14.1-14.2's.

ive also taken it through a few hard runs through the twisties, and the box (with an aftermarket cooler) takes it like a dirty s**t.

dangerman4 has run his auto with 300+kw and was fine. anyone who CANT have as much fun in an auto than a manual cant drive for shit.

edit:

maintenance wise: a complete box costs $300 max and will last you YEARS. mines lasted the car around 14yrs and isnt showing any signs of weakness.

oil: once every 40,000km's $40 a pop.

trans oil cooler kit: $80.

fuel consumption: im making 400-430km on a tank.

want bov noise: you need to back off the accelerator to make the car shift when you want it to. you can also make it shift just that tiny bit harder if you take your foot off completely then hit it again. TSHHHHH!!

performance: want full boost through gear changes? get a shift kit and go for your life.

Edited August 13, 2007 by SECURITY

[mid life crisis]

love my auto i still say a lot of the manual guys have never driven a auto skyline and have no idea what there on about a auto skyline is not like driving a auto commyfalcondore they actually go .

ive driven a manual skyline my son has one but i prefer the auto anyday there no dearer to fix than a manual u can pick the boxes up for bugga all cause there not as populer. a good manual box will cost a grand plus also clutches are a pain to change .just get a mv auto shift kit and ya wont look back

[swanny180]

The absolute, number one best aspect of driving a manual car is the driver involvement. Simple as that.

You wont find huge performance differences in stock manual vs auto R33s, it would likely be noticable but not major.

Basically, it is inconsequential.

If you *really* enjoy driving, get the manual. If youre driving the car in heavy traffic and dont think you could put up with a manual, consider the auto.

[Spook's_Skyline]

haha, autos are for spastics and women

can you buy an auto gtr?

Edited August 13, 2007 by Spook's_Skyline

[mad082]

manual, for the simple fact that the auto has no clutch to kick to get the tail out.

[Guilt-Toy]

When i got my car it was auto and i loved it. I regret changing it to manual to be honest.

I have 2 x R33 RB25DET gearbox's that i am willing to swap for with a whole conversion kit for a high performance build auto setup.

I want to go back to auto cos i want to run my low 10sec pass!!

Auto's are great fun to drive when it comes to turbo's but you can have a bit more fun in a manual but it will cost you tyres and trouble from the cops in the long run.

So yeah i really think its up to you and what you can afford. if you can only afford a auto then go for it the cars are still great fun to drive.

[nugget400hp]

id reccomend going the auto, i own both a worked r32 gtr and a vl turbo street/race car and i tell you theres no better feeling than dropping the transbrake at 20psi, short shifting straight to top gear and stepping the whole street. i do admit the gtr is more fun through the twisty stuff but nothing beats top gear skids

[Guilt-Toy]

ahahahaaa yulla yulla yulla... stop spinnin bro... yulla!!! i gotta go pickup some chicks mate...

[nugget400hp]

huh?

[Wink]

for blow off valve "pshhhts" between shifts, only able to on manual.

You can still get the BOV going off by letting your foot off the accelerator!

[redevil]

Man I love my auto, it's fun to drive and great for windy roads and stuff.... everyone asks if i'm going to convert to manual and no one has showed me any major advantages. Sweet you can clutch kick a manual but when your able to stomp your foot in drive and spin wheels from 40km/h that is alot more impressive than flat changin and chirpin the wheels...

but yeah everyone one is going to have there favourites the best reply when people ask you why auto...... cause i need the other hand free to keep your missus entertained

[H@ME]

I think these guys have posted some really valid information but if u want the large BOV sound go the manual as the auto just shifts into next gear and the turbo beings to spool where with the manual, when u go to change gear, it slower, the throttle body shuts and the larger amount of compressed air is let out through the BOV hence, pffft! lol, i own a manual GTS skyline and am just about to have a conversion done (read my thread in N/A section) but i agree, a skyline is a skyline, go with what u can afford and if you don't mind driving an automatic then don't worry about what others think, you can trick up both manuals ans auto to run good times and perform well.

Hope this helps, Hame {sorry for long post}

[mad082]

think these guys have posted some really valid information but if u want the large BOV sound go the manual as the auto just shifts into next gear and the turbo beings to spool where with the manual, when u go to change gear, it slower, the throttle body shuts and the larger amount of compressed air is let out through the BOV hence, pffft!

or in the manual you can just keep your foot on the gas when you change gears and there will be no spool time either. and a stock auto will change gears slower than most people can change gears in a manual. on average at the drags (until you get to the much quicker cars) a manual will run much faster than an auto. in standard form it would be nearly half a second.

Sweet you can clutch kick a manual but when your able to stomp your foot in drive and spin wheels from 40km/h that is alot more impressive than flat changin and chirpin the wheels...

if you can get an auto to spin the wheels by stomping it in drive you could do the same in a manual. but in the manual you don't have to wait for it to make it's mind up about what gear it wants to drop back into. you just put it in a gear and stomp it.

auto gearboxes are heavier than manual ones as well.

if you want a 10 second car go an auto. if it is going to remain pretty much stock then go manual if you want more fun or auto if it is going to be a daily driver.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Look, i wouldn't give up my manual line for the world... BUT if i didn't have a skyline and my other option was some shit 6 commonwhore. I'd take the auto. If its a 5k difference and the car is in good nick then go for it, you can always grow some balls later if its really buggin you being ghey

[RBwhatever]

Depends where you live and what you do with the car. If you do a lot of city driving than maybe an auto is more ideal. A lot of stopping and starting and pushing the clutch in and changing gears might get a bit annoying.

Ever been on the on-ramps in the underground/multilevel carparks? Stuck on the on-ramp waiting for cars to move and its bumper to bumper?

Imagine trying to ride your heavy duty clutch just to move 2 feet.

If it was auto? Much easier.

There's nothing wrong with auto's. If eating while driving is your thing then get an auto.

I'd prefer a manual as your actually "driving" the car & you have more control to what it does. But if it came down to it, I don't think having an auto would be bad at all. But I'd still choose manual over auto any day

Edited August 14, 2007 by KeyMaker