Interesting R35 Australia Update

[scathing]

think this was already known but the major Capital cities are being given 2 locations only for buying the GT-R's. In Melbourne for anyone that is interested Blackburn "will most likely be one of those locations".

I've also heard horror stories about Blackburn Nissan. I feel sorry for the poor guy who just splashed out $150K on a GT-R and has to deal with those muppets.

There's no proper Nissan dealership / service centre in Docklands, is there? Given that STi is based there, as well as quite a few other companies' premier dealerships, it would seem the logical place. All those long, straight stretches of relatively deserted road would also be a good place to.....erm....test drive that 500hp DSG gearboxed car.

As for de-tuning, the 350Z is pretty much close to top-spec compared to international markets. The only difference is that the forged rims made by RAYS Engineering are an option here on the Track, rather than standard as they are overseas.

Chances are the GT-R will have to have its engine de-tuned for 95RON, since 98RON isn't available everywhere and 100RON is even harder to find. We'd probably get the US-spec 450hp engine (assuming that's true), since US fuel quality is similar to our own.

Nissan has said the 911T is it's main rival and has benchmarked it against the GT-R the whole way through it's development. How is it meant to compete with said car if it's detuned???

Its faster now. Detuning it a little would make it the same speed, so it could still "compete".a

Funny how the most popular (or close to it)Nissan road car here hasn't been sold in Australia by Nissan Aust for over 15 years

The Pulsar hasn't been sold here for 15 years?

In order to make room in the engine management system for the low octane "emergency" maps they have to delete the high octane, big power, maps....

Considering how cheap storage is these days, and how small you can get it (you can fit a 4GB onto a postage-stamp sized SD card, which is far more data than an entire ECU codebase let alone just the A/F mapping) if that's true then its the stupidest excuse I've ever heard.

[ras1983]

Funny how the most popular (or close to it)Nissan road car here hasn't been sold in Australia by Nissan Aust for over 15 years

Thats because they had a hard time selling it when they DID sell it locally.

[funkymonkey]

I'd say Gary Rogers Nissan in Glen Waverley and Brighton Nissan would be the best suited to carry the GTR in Melbourne, they've always been the most cluey about Nissan sports cars.

[Gazzilla]

how about ferntree gully Nissan hehe.. then potential buyers can get a good run up the windy roads to sky high, get a good feel for it. btw I was expecting that sorta price range too, thank god its not more expensive, I have to own one of these R35's before I die. just need the monies..

[urbanoperations]

Ferntree Gully Nissan for sure....

[sewid]

australia is not the 'rest of the world' we are but one tiny, tiny market. by all accounts the UK, EU and US cars will be very close to the japanese domestic market cars in performance, that is what matters to the world market. australia doesn't even rate a mention.

This works both ways. Australia is not a worthwhile market to spend money in R&D in. Therefore we won't be worth spending money on developing a shittier brake package for therefore we will most likely see the massive brembos on Australian cars.

I think we will see something like:

- US Spec suspension

Softer suspension has already been announced for the US market

- US Spec gearbox

Apparently it's a little less noisy than the JDM model

- Detuned ECU for Australian fuels,

There is a ECU map for each market the car is sold in already this is no big deal the car will still make tonnes of power and it will be re programmable in the near future

- Only 1 spec available

Premium non black edition, no base model

- Fewer options

No rear view camera, no LED daylight running lights, no navigation or navi a dealer option only at $5k

[Paragon]

When I went to put some money down on an R35 they guy there in charge of the R35 stuff told me that Nissan actually has someone who scours forums such as this to try to find out what we as enthusiasts think the car should be priced at for them to be better able to position the vehicle. So to everyone, stop talking this piece of shit car up and let Nissan know we think its only worth 120k and no more lol!

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

120-150k is quite reasonable.

Someone buy my wagon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tridentt150v]

Why would Nissan make a 'special' for Australia only?

More parts, greater inventory = extra unwarranted expense. Except for the fuel issues, I see no valid reason to go to the extra expense of dragging a few cars off the production line and changing peripheral fittings just to torture Oz owners.

The most expediant thing Nissan can do is make them as close to all the same as possible, and just makes too much good business sense to try to do that at every opportunity.

[H@ME]

Why would Nissan make a 'special' for Australia only?

More parts, greater inventory = extra unwarranted expense. Except for the fuel issues, I see no valid reason to go to the extra expense of dragging a few cars off the production line and changing peripheral fittings just to torture Oz owners.

The most expediant thing Nissan can do is make them as close to all the same as possible, and just makes too much good business sense to try to do that at every opportunity.

totally agree, why would nissan do that to the australians and oz spec 35GTR..just doesnt sound right, however if they do de-tune the engines and downgrade parts i sure we'll just be re-tuning and upgrading anyhow, so why not save us time and money

[sewid]

totally agree, why would nissan do that to the australians and oz spec 35GTR..just doesnt sound right, however if they do de-tune the engines and downgrade parts i sure we'll just be re-tuning and upgrading anyhow, so why not save us time and money

Well they have to make an Australian spec no matter what. They can't ship us a US Spec because they're all LHD and they cant ship us the Japanese spec because the controls are in Japanse. We have to get an Australian spec mix of both of those.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

It continues to amaze me that people with $ 100,000+ BMW's and Merc's won't fill them with either of the premium unleaded grades. Even the Holden V8's stipulate 98 octane for optimum performance....

yup... EVERY time i'm at the servo there's some tool filling his VE SS or XR8 with 91... not to mention all the euro cars

[saliya]

2. It is unlikely we will be getting the complete Japanese spec however. I'd heard rumours of things like brake downgrades and de-tuned engines but he either didn't know or wouldn't say anything other than "we don't know the final specification details on the Australian delivered cars yet" Again - Sydney Motorshow for those.

Personally, I find this really strange.

Surely there's enough variance in fuel quality globally and

enough room in the ECU for maps to suit <insert crap fuel here>

as well as the nitro the 'ring time was run on.

Yes, I'm joking about the nitro (probably:))

(applies for patent on octane-detecting fuel sender)

Regards,

Saliya

[giant]

this is the same problem i have always has with subaru the car that you buy in australia is far from what you buy in japan,

c spec STI jap model is an amazing car, australia only version is a p.o.s. diufferent engine different steering different suspension, different weight everything.

thats why i bought a mitsubishi evo a while back ( aus model evo 9) it was very close to jap spec and just fantastic. but no gtr ! lol

it will be a shame if nissan detune it or soften it up, but i lways thought the pricing may come down a bit from the 160k pricing thats been thrown around.

[scathing]

When I went to put some money down on an R35 they guy there in charge of the R35 stuff told me that Nissan actually has someone who scours forums such as this to try to find out what we as enthusiasts think the car should be priced at for them to be better able to position the vehicle. So to everyone, stop talking this piece of shit car up and let Nissan know we think its only worth 120k and no more lol!

I'll give them $50 for one, and not a cent more.

Oh, and it'd better come with a full tank of fuel at that price.

[Cain]

I'll give them $50 for one, and not a cent more.

Oh, and it'd better come with a full tank of fuel at that price.

I probably would only pay $49

and make sure its decent 100ron fuel and a full tank.

[R338OY]

Good point. Nissan can get free market research on these forums. YES we think the R35 should be modified to meet ADR's and also cope with our lower-octane fuel- but de-tuning, as was done with the 200SX, is really dampening the impact of the flagship Nissan. It's illogical.

Edited March 7, 2008 by R338OY

[Sydneykid]

Anyone interested in the release dates?

1/04/09

On which date was the R35 released in japan???

24/10/07

That, everybody, is 7 days LATER than 18months..

We only need an 18month window of opprtunity and we get automatic SEVS entry...

Let's see when they arrive, but this will open the floodgates to SEVS imports.

[giant]

Good point gary!!

[djr81]

Does no one think that Nissan aren't going to bust their arses to ensure it gets here atleast a week before April fools day?

Edited March 7, 2008 by djr81