Mitcho_7 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just put hi-lighter over it. Forgive how rough it is etc. Yellow is original 315 result Blue is 307 ex gate Green is new one with .82 rear Maybe Stao can get proper comparison sheet when he try's next wheel Thats with all of them running about 22psi yeh? I think the new setup internally gated has the nicest curve Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6422432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thats with all of them running about 22psi yeh? I think the new setup internally gated has the nicest curve Didn't check boost actually But they are all final results so yeah around that. Too hard searching around on my phone to do it properly But new one runs 82 housing not 63 so should be cooler on track. yet response is still on par. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6422451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Further updates. This is the 2nd SS2 prototype been trailed. More responsive and made more power to previous version. Internally gated. Max of 312rwkws on BP 98 and 210rwkws by 4000RPMs 22psi by 3750RPMs, 20psi by 3650 RPMs: U Max of 348rwkws on E85, probably another 15kws in it as my fuel pump is out. I believe this turbo would make a pretty responsive 250~280rwkws internally gated on a stock manifold on pump with around 18psi of boost. Would go crazy to run on external gate and e85. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_J Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 great work stao 200rpm more responsive and 10 more kws now to bit the bullet and try thin titanium exhaust wheels Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) I think that is the nicest variation of the ss2 you have produced stao. Will that be the variation you sell as the default ss2 now ? Edited June 29, 2012 by Mitcho_7 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Any chance of over-laying SS2 results Stao? How does this and last one compare on the road? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 hahahahaha ...almost identical to my Kando , But on 98 with IG....nice work Stao.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 hahahahaha ...almost identical to my Kando , But on 98 with IG....nice work Stao.... Too late now. You already picked your side Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 that ss2 is impressive, how much would they sell for in a external wastegate housing? cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 will this new ss2 internal gate varation, the one you posted the graph of just above, be the same price as the current internal ss2's? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 The 5 bolt externally gated version is cheaper then the bolton internally gated version. That is $1100 The factory bolton version is $1375 and oil line is additional $88 which is required to complete the setup. For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brae auto's high mount manifold with any turbochargers, with $200 discount off total. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 pretty good value.. Too late now. You already picked your side Its never too late If I ever get done for my external gate prompting a rebuild, I would definately consider it, until then my car is fast and I am happy... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The 5 bolt externally gated version is cheaper then the bolton internally gated version. That is $1100 The factory bolton version is $1375 and oil line is additional $88 which is required to complete the setup. For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brea auto's high mount manifold for $900 with any turbochargers, they are $1100 retail, so $200 off the total package. 50mm external gate is for $200. Fark cheaper then the SS1PU Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If I ever get done for my external gate prompting a rebuild, I would definately consider it, until then my car is fast and I am happy... I thought external gates were ok as long as they are plumbed into the exhaust? Or are you running a screamer pipe? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_J Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 external gate and after market turbo's are illegal in VIC Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The 5 bolt externally gated version is cheaper then the bolton internally gated version. That is $1100 The factory bolton version is $1375 and oil line is additional $88 which is required to complete the setup. For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brea auto's high mount manifold for $900 with any turbochargers, they are $1100 retail, so $200 off the total package. 50mm external gate is for $200. the breas are a side mount manifold yes, or do they do a top mount aswell? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brea auto's high mount manifold for $900 with any turbochargers, they are $1100 retail, so $200 off the total package. 50mm external gate is for $200. Can you weld up something to run the external wastegate off the underside of the rear housing (and plum back into the exhaust futher down) rather than having to buy a new manifold or does that not really work that well? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Stao, in your eyes, what would work best if you had 2 options with the ss2, a internal gate ss2 on a brea manifold..or a external gate ss2 with ext gate put on stock manifold? cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Can you weld up something to run the external wastegate off the underside of the rear housing (and plum back into the exhaust futher down) rather than having to buy a new manifold or does that not really work that well? It can be done, gain is more significant if the external gate is fitted on to the exhaust manifold. Stao, in your eyes, what would work best if you had 2 options with the ss2, a internal gate ss2 on a brea manifold..or a external gate ss2 with ext gate put on stock manifold? cheers darren Obviously Externally gated setup would pickup more power. There should be 20kws gain running external gate on my current setup. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 well I wasn't sure it was so obvious, you said you picked up 15rwkw going from Brea from standard mani ..so i would have thought the gains from standard manifold to ext gate might have only closed that sort of figure in..guess its one of those things you(not you, but someone) really have to back to back... cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/277/#findComment-6423996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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