Hypergear Turbochargers and High flow Services Development thread

[Dan_J]

yeah i know it sucks

i usually just heel toe at the lights

[t_revz]

Just a quick off topic question, didn't think it was worth starting a new thread for.

I'm going to degree my cams next week sometime just to cross cam timing off the list once and for all, but just want to check if my car will still be driveable on the current tune after any changes? I know MAP sensors are sensitive to changes in the efficiency of the motor, will adjusting cam timing make it unhappy or should it be ok?

About time

Who is doing it for you?

I moved my exh 4 degrees and inlet 2 and it became undrivable under 1200 when VCT was activated.

[Hanaldo]

I'll do it myself. Not hard. Just didn't have the tools to do it, but seeing Stao's results has motivated me to get a move on again with mine, so I've just bought all the tools I need. Will make a piston stop next week. I'll be surprised if mine is out though. How did you move tour intake gear?

Planning on respraying my front bar and right front guard, so it will give me something to do to spare myself from the monotony of prepping and spraying

[t_revz]

Take inlet gear off, adjust roughly 1mm per 2 degrees at crank. Refit and check. Took a few goes.

I remembered this morning I actually adjusted exhaust 2 degrees and inlet 6. I ran out of adjustment and had to skip the belt a tooth to get the inlet right. But I need to do it again (long story)

I've got a crank degree wheel and homemade piston stop if you need them

[Hanaldo]

Did you buy the degree wheel? I was just going to print off one of the downloadable templates and stick it on a piece of ally. Piston stop should be easy, I've got a set of my old spark plugs here so I should be set for that.

Are the intake gears adjustable from factory? I thought they needed to be modified to make them adjustable?

[t_revz]

Adjustable from behind on non neo. Not sure on yours. Should be the same. Yeah bought a wheel for a pineapple. Pm address if you want me to send it. Just be careful when removing gear it drips oil so cover up timing belt

[GTScotT]

VCT side is adjustable from stock boys. Hanaldo you will just need an exhaust side gear.

Trev amazing that you had to skip a tooth to get it right. That is just whack.

Hanaldo why don't you get Stao to update your G3 to the newer small trim compressor before you hit the rollers? Seeing as you're on the job already you may as well do it once and do it right.

[Hanaldo]

Yep, I've got a HKS exhaust gear.

I would definitely send the turbo back if I was over east, but being so far away makes it too hard. It takes over a week just to get there, then a couple of days to modify, then another week to come back. So the car would be off the road for probably 3 weeks as compared to a couple of days. Unless I'm willing to pay over $200 for overnight delivery there and back, which I'm not.

[Trozzle]

I am not expecting it to be out my much if at all, maybe 2 degrees. But gonna do it anyway to cross it off the list. I've got the wideband hooked up so I can keep an eye on mixtures, and if it is out at all then I certainly won't be boosting anywhere until I get a tune. I just wanted to make sure I can drive it to the tuners once it's all setup.

Pardon my potential retardedness, but what on earth is the point adjusting cam timing without the car on a dyno anyway? Where did you get the settings you're gonna use without it being on a dyno to know they the most efficient?

[Hanaldo]

The cam specs card that came with the cams. Tomei tell you what the settings SHOULD be, and in a perfect world they would be spot on every time. But every motor is different, and Type-B cams have been known to be out on occasion. Couple that with having my head decked potentially altering the deck height, I need to make sure the cams are in the right spot.

[GTScotT]

Pardon my potential retardedness, but what on earth is the point adjusting cam timing without the car on a dyno anyway? Where did you get the settings you're gonna use without it being on a dyno to know they the most efficient?

When you deck the block and head, or run a different gasket, or even just run certain brands of cams you need to set them back to true zero. The belt will throw out the position as the distance from cam to crank changes with those mods.

You need to degree them to find true zero and then you can dial them for 'gains' on the dyno, knowing where true zero is. Otherwise you could chase your tail for HOURS on the dyno trying to find something that works, which you may never.

[Trozzle]

AHHHH ok, thanks for the info

[34GeeTeeTee]

VCT side is adjustable from stock boys. Hanaldo you will just need an exhaust side gear.

Trev amazing that you had to skip a tooth to get it right. That is just whack.

Hanaldo why don't you get Stao to update your G3 to the newer small trim compressor before you hit the rollers? Seeing as you're on the job already you may as well do it once and do it right.

This! Do this Martin

[Hanaldo]

You. You ship my turbo to Stao and then back to me. Overnight. For free. Then I'll do it

[34GeeTeeTee]

I've already paid enough shipping lately! So Be a Man... Dooooo da right fing!

Send your turbo to Stao!!! Naaaaaaaaow!

[scotty nm35]

E-go mate, why didn't I find them sooner. Aust post can suck a big one.

Send it depot to depot and get half price express, there is one in Campbellfield.

[copycutter]

What is the potential gain from swapping from the old g3 to the new one?

[GTScotT]

Better response.

[hypergear]

and more power

[GTScotT]

I thought the 56T compressor didn't make any extra power? I could be wrong, I wasn't looking for a power gain when I saw the result..