D2 Coilover Vs Tein Superstreet Vs Cusco?

[jackdanielz]

Hi guys, wondering if you guys could help me decide or give some heads up before i make my decision

Need to buy a new set of coilovers,

thinking of getting a second hand set since i am not that loaded

after some window shopping and quite a bit amount of browsing, my choices are narrowed down to

brand new d2 coilover which is around $1000

Cusco - not sure which series around $600

and tein superstreet $850

condition wise, tein > cusco

well my question is that is it really worth it to get a secondhand tein say instead of new set of d2 coilover?

i dont usually go to a track, hence daily street use, lowered height is what i after the most..

and anyone whats to sell their coilovers? could swap with a stock R34 gtt suspension

also for the compatibility can we fit R33 GTR/GTT coilovers to R34 GTT?

cheers

bly

[MrStabby]

Tein superstreet will have a sensible spring rate at least. They others may not, and if they dont they'll be horrible regardless of condition. Make sure you find out what the rate is before you buy.

[jackdanielz]

thanks for the heads up mr stabby

anyone one has used D2, any comments about them? already heard pretty good review about superstreet..

cheers

[hrd-hr30]

there's a saying, "the poor man pays twice". Its probably relevant to buying secondhand coilovers. But I don't think I'd buy the new D2 coilovers either. If you must get used shocks, then get the ones with the best local rebuilding support - Teins. If you can, save another month and buy new Tein SS.

[bozodos]

Cusco are probably better quality, but I imagine that they are probably also harder to get inserts for (not to mention the fkn cost of them!)

D2 etc are cheap shit, waste of money.

[liampire]

For the people bagging out D2 coilovers have you used them before? I have a set of new D2's in my S13. They are perfectly fine. My brother had tein super streets in his Toyota Soarer, they were good also but from memory he paid $1800 and comparing them to the D2's there was no difference. If you are not taking your car to the track then you may want to look at Bilstein shocks and suitable springs to lower your car. In my opinion that would be a better street setup opposed to coil over suspension as they really are suited more so for the track. Alternatively if you are set on buying coil overs and want some piece of mind I suppose in terms of purchasing quality parts then HSD coilovers are known to be very good. Personally I wouldn't buy second hand unless you knew how old they were and how many k's they have travelled as there are so many buggered second hand coil overs in most imports. I suppose the same argument goes with people bagging out KKR turbos saying they are cheap chinese rubbish....yet the majority of people saying negative things have never used these parts.

[bozodos]

yeah KKR are cheap chinese dog shit, I have one, f**king biggest POS, comparable with ebay shit.

this has been discussed before at length about the elcheapo 'coilover' manufacturers making rock hard spring rates and the same valving throughout their entire range = shitty on shitty bumpy uneven australian roads. It's no coincidence that it's always Silvia owners trying to say that they are anything but rubbish.

Bilsteins with circlip height adjustment and some decent springs go for about the same price new as the cheap shit coilovers. I know which way I'd be going.

I hate people who are tightarses when it comes to modding their imports, why not stick to a falcodore if you don't wanna pay for decent stuff.

[scandyflick]

dude. save your money a little longer, and buy some quality gear.

you can get brand new jic flt-fas coilovers through jis in adelaide for $1500.

dont bother with d2/isc/g4 or any of that shit. absolute garbage. rock hard spring rates, super soft damper rates. youll hate yourself for buying them.

stick with japanese quality. cusco/jic/silk road/tein. hell, id even go parts shop max. you can get those for usd$1000 + shipping.

[badhairdave]

For the people bagging out D2 coilovers have you used them before? I have a set of new D2's in my S13. They are perfectly fine. My brother had tein super streets in his Toyota Soarer, they were good also but from memory he paid $1800 and comparing them to the D2's there was no difference. If you are not taking your car to the track then you may want to look at Bilstein shocks and suitable springs to lower your car. In my opinion that would be a better street setup opposed to coil over suspension as they really are suited more so for the track. Alternatively if you are set on buying coil overs and want some piece of mind I suppose in terms of purchasing quality parts then HSD coilovers are known to be very good. Personally I wouldn't buy second hand unless you knew how old they were and how many k's they have travelled as there are so many buggered second hand coil overs in most imports. I suppose the same argument goes with people bagging out KKR turbos saying they are cheap chinese rubbish....yet the majority of people saying negative things have never used these parts.

Thats the funniest thing i've read all week.

Of all the brands you have listed you have stated the best shock is for street only....

[MrStabby]

WRT the D2/G4 stuff, on a shock dyno the performance is poor and the dampening adjuster does almost nothing, unless they have improved them over the last two years. These days most places offer them with spring rate of your choice, so that problem has gone away.

[IanB]

Fitted a set of D2 coilovers to a R32 GTST once, even on their softest setting they were horribly hard.

My tein coilovers have been nothing but solid for three + years, my car(s) handles like a dream and I even went to the trouble of taking them from one car to another when I bought another 32 GTR. I would recommend them for street and occasional track use. They have reasonable ride quality and good handling.

Remember, harder suspension != better handling. I learnt that lesson by proxy when my mate with super hard coilovers went over the side as a result.

Regards,

Ian

[AYW550]

thanks for the heads up mr stabby

anyone one has used D2, any comments about them? already heard pretty good review about superstreet..

cheers

ive been running a set of d2 on my 34 for just over a year now and i have been very happy, i got mine new on trademe for 600 NZD

i dont do any track work but i have driven them pretty aggressively thru twisty mountain roads and havent been left wishing i had spent more, although i have never used more epensive or higher quality shock to compare to....

im pretty sure my spring rates are 4 and 6 kg

sometimes if you hit a harsh bump at pace that you werent expecting they can be a bit clunky in the front, but on my set up im sure the noise is a result of the shock topping out

Edited April 19, 2010 by AYW550

[BeEnAr]

I love my oz spec Tein SS. Save up for a little longer and get yourself some, well worth it, also they are ADR approved (so no defect) and parts rebuild etc can be sourced/done locally a little easier than the other jap stuff. Oh and good luck getting your ebay edition coilovers rebuilt.

Don't skimp on the stuff holding your car body to the road, suspension, brakes, tyres. These are the most important things on a car IMO because IF one fails, you could well be in a lot of trouble (read hello tree/armco/cliff face) at least if your engine or tranny goes you can still steer and brake yourself out of trouble.

[STATUS]

For the people bagging out D2 coilovers have you used them before? I have a set of new D2's in my S13. They are perfectly fine. My brother had tein super streets in his Toyota Soarer, they were good also but from memory he paid $1800 and comparing them to the D2's there was no difference. If you are not taking your car to the track then you may want to look at Bilstein shocks and suitable springs to lower your car. In my opinion that would be a better street setup opposed to coil over suspension as they really are suited more so for the track. Alternatively if you are set on buying coil overs and want some piece of mind I suppose in terms of purchasing quality parts then HSD coilovers are known to be very good. Personally I wouldn't buy second hand unless you knew how old they were and how many k's they have travelled as there are so many buggered second hand coil overs in most imports. I suppose the same argument goes with people bagging out KKR turbos saying they are cheap chinese rubbish....yet the majority of people saying negative things have never used these parts.

hmmm D2's are garbage, ive even got a set here from an evo that broke the camber plates after 3 weeks....