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But Boullier is speaking with Cosworth as he has to pay for his engines now and that means loads of dollars he doesnt have. From what I understand Lotus (Proton owned and managed by some Danny Bahar fella didnt pay any money to the F1 team for some reason...yet they kept the car painted in their colours as they didnt want to publicly pull the colours and be without a naming sponsor. Seems the cheque is in the post which is always the case with dodgy Malaysian businesses :(

do you think it has somethink to do with the trouble Renault is having with drivers?

i mean they had to pay of Nick Heidfeld + pay burno senna to take his place.

so i just went on the pf1 forum, it was interesting.... :blink:

they did have one good thread and that was 'the rookie of the year' thread.

nominees are.

Perez

Maldanaldo

Di Resta

D'Ambrosio

Ricciardo

so my vote goes to, (drum roll)....... lewis hamilton. :laugh:

who gets your vote?

Not sure who's leading the points out of the above, but Di Resta always seems to be in the mix, he'd get my vote

lol. webber is hardcore. no one should ever question if the bloke wants to be in F1.

'umm got food poisoning, feeling sick think I should retire... *blurrrg* sorry just vomited down my helmet'

"ok mark, in this lap, box box box"

'nah, think I'll stay out, most of the spew is out of me now and in my helemet and all down my race suit. getting a second wind up.'

______

no wonder he was fking ropeable when vettel took him out under safety car. that is why I've never forgiven vettel. yes he carries on like a tool but fact is the kid is a great driver but I just can't help but think that race with webber in P2 behind hamilton and massively faster than hamilton in those conditions that that was supposed to be webbers first win and would have done it in pretty amazing circumstances... I will never forgive you for robbing webber of that win in japan vettel. NEVER!

in those conditions that that was supposed to be webbers first win and would have done it in pretty amazing circumstances... I will never forgive you for robbing webber of that win in japan vettel. NEVER!

Funny isnt it. BIG hypothetical, if Webber had of gotten up and he was looking pretty solid. it woudl have been Red Bulls first win, 12 months before Vettel in Monza, Webber would have had the confidence of being a GP winner in a reasonably comepetitive RBR, much like Vettel 12 months later in the STR. You wonder what would have happened with confidence if Vettel came into RBR with Webber being a GP winner.

They say confidence is a huge thing, Vettel and Button all speak of the confidence and release of pressure having won the GDP....Webber looked great mid season then fell away. Mika being handed his first wins did wonders for him...but isntead, Webber got take out by the hatchet man :)

Funny isnt it. BIG hypothetical, if Webber had of gotten up and he was looking pretty solid. it woudl have been Red Bulls first win, 12 months before Vettel in Monza, Webber would have had the confidence of being a GP winner in a reasonable comepetitive RBR, must like Vettel 12 months later in the STR. You wonder what would have happened with confidence if Vettel came into RBR with Webber being a GP winner.

They say confidence is a huge thing, Vettel and Button all speak of the confidence and release of pressure having won the GDP....Webber looked great mid season then fell away. Mika being handed his first wins did wonders for him...but isntead, Webber got take out by the hatchet man :)

Motorsport is the best sport in the world for "what-if"-ing. You could equally argue that a disappointment like that could have stirred up Webber - he's that sort of bloke.

Motorsport is the best sport in the world for "what-if"-ing. You could equally argue that a disappointment like that could have stirred up Webber - he's that sort of bloke.

yeah but webbers had plenty of experience with disappointment already! lol. if disappointment stirs the boy up he'd be just about bursting by now. :)

Funny isnt it. BIG hypothetical, if Webber had of gotten up and he was looking pretty solid. it woudl have been Red Bulls first win, 12 months before Vettel in Monza, Webber would have had the confidence of being a GP winner in a reasonably comepetitive RBR, much like Vettel 12 months later in the STR. You wonder what would have happened with confidence if Vettel came into RBR with Webber being a GP winner.

They say confidence is a huge thing, Vettel and Button all speak of the confidence and release of pressure having won the GDP....Webber looked great mid season then fell away. Mika being handed his first wins did wonders for him...but isntead, Webber got take out by the hatchet man :)

for sure. it's a big hypothetical and we'll never know the answer but there's no doubt that things would have been different with seb walking into a team where webber was their golden boy and first ever race winner. not sure in what way it would be different but certainly something would have shifted.

and again it's why i'll never forgive the little prick. i bet deep down webber still holds a grudge too. webber had been in with some half chances before but that day he fought like a motherfker, though the spew in the helmet, though the nausea so bad he could barely see, through the rain, through the field, was closing in on hamilton at pace and then got handed a safety car. it really looked like him getting a struggling hamilton was only going to be a matter of time and then fking vettel came along. vettels been screwing him ever since! lol. if he's still had a team mate anything like his previous ones he would have probably won the 2010 WDC too. without a teammate to crash into him now and then and rob points off him now and then it quite possibly wouldn't have even gone down to the last race.

they are all 'what-ifs' and possibly wishful thinking on my part but there's no doubt at the time when webber finally got the car he deserves he also got the team mate to go with it. for a guy who has clearly beaten all the team mates he's raced with it must be a bitter pill to swallow.

First, let me say I'm no Vettel fan, arrogant little prick. But I'm even less of a fan of Lewis, the boy with the silver spoon shoved up his arse. If I remember correctly the safety car was miles ahead, Lewis then accelerated towards the last corner and then decided he wanted to back the pack up (or play dirty tricks and try and give others penalties for overtaking), he pulled over to the right side of the track which forced Mark to almost stop on the left to avoid overtaking him. Vettel came to the scene with speed, I guess assuming they were accelerating for the restart and found an almost stationary Webber with no where to go (Lewis on the right).

He may have been the one that made contact but the person responsible for the whole sequence of events is one L.Hamilton. IIRC Vettel was balling his eyes out in the pit lane afterwards, I'm not sure if its because he blew his chances at his first podium (probably more likely) or that he took out the senior driver at the senior team who was on for the teams first win. I'm not sure who Webber blames, I seem to remember his relationship with Hamilton is less that friendly though?

Looks like Webber and DC had a blast at Redbull together. I'd love to see Button and Webber in the same team, looks like it was supposed to happen in 05/06 at Williams if it wasn't for the meddling FIA.

so my vote goes to, (drum roll)....... lewis hamilton. :laugh:

that guy that won a WDC in his second season, and already has more race wins and podium finishes than most drivers achieve in a whole career?

yeah, I've heard of him

that guy that won a WDC in his second season, and already has more race wins and podium finishes than most drivers achieve in a whole career?

yeah, I've heard of him

he may be a wdc winner, but you cant deny the fact that he doesn't act like one.

that guy that won a WDC in his second season, and already has more race wins and podium finishes than most drivers achieve in a whole career?

yeah, I've heard of him

WDC in his second year? Talented driver no doubt. But he is a pretty lucky mug. He won the WDC by a corner and a point. Wont go into the bad luck that Massa hit through the season including engine failures with 1-3laps to go in Spain.

I go into race weekends thinking Hamo is a real threat this weekend, but never think of him as a threat for a WDC. The guy is an egotistical retard who cant mount a WDC campaign to save his life.

You only have to look at his best string of race results! His first 9 GPs were his most consistant. Once he took the pressure of himself to be disciplined because he thought he had proven a point, :he had arrived"...the real Lewis started stepping into a race car and he started punting people, binning it and being shit by trying moves that would get him on the highlight reels.

And dont mistaken the above as a complaint. God bless him for being so stupid, makes entertaining viewing

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