2011 F1 Thread

[Roy]

IMHO massa deserved the penalty. had it been anyone else coming up the inside of him then he wouldn't deserve it, but he knew it was hamo behind him. i'm sure he knew that hamo was trying to make a move up the inside yet still turned in.

HUH?

[sh@un]

*waits for new race to give us something else to talk about*

[mad082]

That is a ridiculous argument. So because it's Hamilton who loves to crash, massa should just let him through?

f**k that

no, because it's hamo who loves to crash into massa.

and not saying he should just let him through, but should excercise a bit of common sense. i knew there was going to be a crash before massa even started to turn in.

[chef_stagea]

Just 3 winners this yr, bring back reverse grid, f1 is gay now

[sh@un]

artificial ploys like that are for stock car series' like V8 Taxicars

[Marlin]

no, because it's hamo who loves to crash into massa.

and not saying he should just let him through, but should excercise a bit of common sense. i knew there was going to be a crash before massa even started to turn in.

Yes because your mate Hamilton was trying a ridiculous move. I'll say it again, Massa HAD to turn into the corner or he was going off..... he was in front and completely entitled to turn in.

[dezz]

Yes because your mate Hamilton was trying a ridiculous move. I'll say it again, Massa HAD to turn into the corner or he was going off..... he was in front and completely entitled to turn in.

Spot on. Massa was penalized for Hamilton attempting a ridiculous move that he didn't pull out of quick enough.

It's that simple

[N1GTR]

From RBR;

In only it's third season on the calendar, Abu Dhabi already feels like a firm Formula One favourite. Especially with us at Red Bull Racing.

In 2010 it was, of course, the place where one of the most dramatic ends to a season played out. Going into the race, Sebastian had only an outside chance of winning the Drivers’ Championship – Fernando Alonso was in the box seat with 246 points, followed by Mark Webber with 238 and then Vettel with 231.

While Alonso and Ferrari’s eyes were on Mark, who they felt posed the biggest threat, Sebastian took full advantage to romp home first across the line. Alonso’s seventh-place finish, just ahead of Mark, wasn’t good enough and Seb took the title by just four championship points, to complete a memorable double title-winning season for Red Bull Racing.

Seb tops the list of those who have triumphed at the Yas Marina Circuit – having won both grands prix there to date. In 2009 he finished a place ahead of Mark for our fourth 1-2 of the season.

Being the most futuristic track on the calendar, and the sport's first twilight race, there’s always magic in the air when the teams go head-to-head in Abu Dhabi.

The track itself was designed with racing in mind. As well as the waterside marina area, there are high-speed sections, tight corners for overtaking, and even a twisty street circuit-style sector. Overall, its diverse elements come together to create one of the longest and most demanding tracks in the world, where close and competitive racing is guaranteed.

This is another anti-clockwise circuit and will put more strain on the driver’s neck muscles. There are 25 turns on its 5.554km lap. The race is 55 laps, a distance of 305.355km. Vettel's 2009 lap time of 1:40.279 is still the one to beat here.

Abu Dhabi is an oasis on the edge of the Rub Al Khali desert. From five-star luxury hotels on Yas island, to camel market in Al Ain, Abu Dhabi is full of contrasts. The largest and wealthiest of the United Arab Emirates, while it has retained many of its local traditions and charms, it's still progressive. Oh, and has great musical taste. Where else in the world would you get Britney Spears, The Cult and Sir Paul McCartney playing at a grand prix? Exactly.

[ctjet]

Just 3 winners this yr, bring back reverse grid, f1 is gay now

Been 4 hasnt it? Vettel, Button, Hamilton and Alonso

How Webber hasnt won anything is incomprehensible

[iamhe77]

The track itself was designed with racing in mind. As well as the waterside marina area, there are high-speed sections, tight corners for overtaking, and even a twisty street circuit-style sector. Overall, its diverse elements come together to create one of the longest and most demanding tracks in the world, where close and competitive racing is guaranteed.

This is another anti-clockwise circuit and will put more strain on the driver's neck muscles. There are 25 turns on its 5.554km lap. The race is 55 laps, a distance of 305.355km. Vettel's 2009 lap time of 1:40.279 is still the one to beat here.

Oh, that would explain why Alonso and Webber couldn't progress up the field after their pit stops.

Abu Dhabi is an oasis on the edge of the Rub Al Khali desert. From five-star luxury hotels on Yas island, to camel market in Al Ain, Abu Dhabi is full of contrasts. The largest and wealthiest of the United Arab Emirates, while it has retained many of its local traditions and charms, it's still progressive. Oh, and has great musical taste. Where else in the world would you get Britney Spears, The Cult and Sir Paul McCartney playing at a grand prix? Exactly.

Oxymoron?

[sh@un]

I'll say it again, Massa HAD to turn into the corner or he was going off.....

based on all that data-logging info you have from Massa's car, yeah?

[Marlin]

Based on me not be retarded and actually knowing what I'm f**king talking about. Champ.

[tweety bird]

so..... Lola wants back in to f1.......

[dezz]

Based on me not be retarded and actually knowing what I'm f**king talking about. Champ.

Not to mention the fact that not turning into a corner results in one driving off the track.

For all the one eyed Hamilton fans, those that somehow can't see the blatantly obvious, answer this.

Is it ok to attempt ridiculous passing moves that will not stick WITHOUT the leading car, who is on the racing line, either slamming on his brakes and LETTING the following car through, or driving completely off the track?

To put it in simpler terms, is it ok for the following car to take a line that will not allow him to make the corner without T-boning the lead car?

[N1GTR]

so..... Lola wants back in to f1.......

Details?

[260DET]

Based on me not be retarded and actually knowing what I'm f**king talking about. Champ.

Yeh, trying not to sound smart arse but unless you have driven on circuits at speed and know what is going on it can be hard to understand the dynamics at play. If you are pushing it and have taken a line for a corner then it can be fatal to even try to change that line.

[Roy]

Not to mention the fact that not turning into a corner results in one driving off the track.

For all the one eyed Hamilton fans, those that somehow can't see the blatantly obvious, answer this.

Is it ok to attempt ridiculous passing moves that will not stick WITHOUT the leading car, who is on the racing line, either slamming on his brakes and LETTING the following car through, or driving completely off the track?

To put it in simpler terms, is it ok for the following car to take a line that will not allow him to make the corner without T-boning the lead car?

To me defending Hamo is like trying to defend Webber when he took out Hamo at the Aus GP last year with a few laps to go. You can see how it happens, no real crime. Just sloppy driving. How the hell Massa got a penalty? Well thats where I get frustrated as all the sooking and sulking and playing victim seems to be paying off for Hamo. It seems if you drive like a tool often enough and gripe about being victimised then people will get gun shy. Fark him...lol but I think I have said that already

Bring back the Hamo of mid last year. He was racing hard with the occasional woopsie trying to be aggressive and his attitude seemed ot have transformed from early in his career. This year he has gone backwards, hell I prefer the arrogant Lewis to the sulking Lewis. I wonder how much of if really is his Mrs doing a runner....and no support network away from the track?

[tweety bird]

here

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1068421_lola-wants-to-again-field-a-team-in-f1-report

trying to change the subject from the sob, sick of hearing about him.....

[tweety bird]

Rosberg re upped with mec, 2013+ apparently.

good for him i say.

[sh@un]

If you are pushing it and have taken a line for a corner then it can be fatal to even try to change that line.

absolutely, if you're not aware that someone's there and you've commited to the turn-in

but Massa knew Hamo was overtaking rapidly coming down the straight, so the argument's null and void in this instance