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Ah but it not only the driver who is relevant to tyre care, the car is too. Observing MW fighting the Red Bull in traffic while Vettel has cleared off into the clean air out front has become a common scenario, I'm surprised that it has not been generally realised that the Red Bull is a dog in dirty air which contributes significantly to tyre degradation.

That might justify webber's poor year in the best car, if they didn't all set quali lap times in clear air.

He is not as good as Vettel. End of story

Yep, Vettel is the best F1 driver around, by a fair margin too. So the Red Bull suits him, Mark is back in the second tier with Alonso, Button, Lulu, et al. Which makes it hard to evaluate cars but let's say the Red Bull is not the dominant car for 2011 but Vettel is the dominant driver?

I still believe the RBR is the dominant car, Webber is just not driving it to it's true potential.

Would be very interested to see Alonso/Hamilton/Button in the same car as Vettel as they're closer to him than Webber, in lesser cars (imo)

Webber simply isnt doing the job required of him this year. Its no crime, but it is disappointing for his fans and no less him

But, you have to laugh, last year with the cold blown diffuser and last years tyres Webber was consistantly beating Vettel RBR-Renault sort the hot blown diffuser, car becomes easier to drive and Vettel catches pace on Webber. Then compounded by this years tyres and Webber is struggling to beat the Ferrari and McLaren,

I am not sure there is that much in it. Webber is a good qualifier but cant turn on the tyres. Vettel is the master of it. Button, Webber, Alonso, even Hamilton cant match his ability to turn on the tyres and get a close to perfect lap. I think the McLaren and RBR are very even cars. You only have to look at their respective race paces and amount of GP wins to see that they have the equal car, especially with the 2011 spec gadgets and their straight line speed over the RBR...the cars work out even in a race. Ferrari is definitely slower then the Mac and RBR

more on the usa

"It's all very simple - they don't have the money," Ecclestone told The Associated Press on Thursday. "We don't have a contract. If they want to come back to us, if it's not signed before the end of next week, I suppose it won't be on the calendar next year."

the organisers want it pushed back one year, so we might be looking at a 2013 race.

Webber simply isnt doing the job required of him this year. Its no crime, but it is disappointing for his fans and no less him

But, you have to laugh, last year with the cold blown diffuser and last years tyres Webber was consistantly beating Vettel RBR-Renault sort the hot blown diffuser, car becomes easier to drive and Vettel catches pace on Webber. Then compounded by this years tyres and Webber is struggling to beat the Ferrari and McLaren,

I am not sure there is that much in it. Webber is a good qualifier but cant turn on the tyres. Vettel is the master of it. Button, Webber, Alonso, even Hamilton cant match his ability to turn on the tyres and get a close to perfect lap. I think the McLaren and RBR are very even cars. You only have to look at their respective race paces and amount of GP wins to see that they have the equal car, especially with the 2011 spec gadgets and their straight line speed over the RBR...the cars work out even in a race. Ferrari is definitely slower then the Mac and RBR

conspiracy theorists would also say that RBR are simply giving vettel a better car to start with, and now that he has won the championship they aren't willing to simply make webber's suddenly otherwise it would prove that they were deliberately sabotaging his year...

Using the old points system of > 10-6-4-3-2-1:

Drivers' Championship

01 - 141 pts - Sebastian Vettel

02 - 79 pts - Jenson Button

03 - 70 pts - Fernando Alonso

04 - 68 pts - Lewis Hamilton

05 - 62 pts - Mark Webber

06 - 15 pts - Felipe Massa

07 - 12 pts - Michael Schumacher

08 - 8 pts - Nico Rosberg

09 - 6 pts - Vitaly Petrov

10 - 4 pts - Nick Heidfeld

11 - 2 pts - Kamui Kobayashi

12 - 1 pt - Paul di Resta

13 - 1 pt - Adrian Sutil

Constructors' Championship

01 - 203 pts - Red Bull

02 - 147 pts - McLaren

03 - 85 pts - Ferrari

04 - 20 pts - Mercedes

05 - 10 pts - Renault

06 - 2 pts - Sauber

07 - 2 pts - Force India

some interesting reading in that

Well it's official, Kimi has signed with Williams for 2012-13 and for a huge lump of money.....

I should check the link before posting next time :pwned:

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