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If it helps, my electorate is safe Labor territory so it's a moot point (lots of tradies out my way haha)

Mine too kills me inside. I don't have anything against tradies I do however think unions should be disbanded works clearly have rights in this day an age so they are largely redundant bullies now

#aslongasigotmysuitandtieimavoteliberaltonight

Mine too kills me inside. I don't have anything against tradies I do however think unions should be disbanded works clearly have rights in this day an age so they are largely redundant bullies now

#aslongasigotmysuitandtieimavoteliberaltonight

Without unions the builders will walk all over us. Call it what you want but the unions serve the workers and get shit done.

No union in domestic which is why the kids flipping burgers at McDonalds makes more than a domestic A grade electrician, and works in better conditions than one too

yeh that's why I don't like unions if I get sacked nobody gives two fks sack a bloke on Holden's production line or union workers it's an uproar and they get redundancy packages but the bloke at maccas or any other non union protected industry gets sweet fk nothing

Who are unions and governments to decide if companies can sack ppl or not they should have no place in private enterprise if a company offers X wage and someone is happy to work for that why should anyone have power to say no u must pay at least X. Minimum wage is worst thing to happen to the world

if it werent for unions in my industry, people would have to work on-call for no extra money and any extra hours worked would be paid single time minus half an hour every four hours for the "lunch break" regardless of what hour it is. then no one would care if you worked every day for 21 days straight or if you worked more than 16 hours straight.

while I disagree with what the union tries to do a lot of the time, they have set a standard across the state. I went from an EBA to personal contract (blue collar to white collar) earlier this year and the contract was a crock of shit (hence why i left), the only people who took it wanted salary instead of hourly rate and/or couldnt get a job with a decent utility because of lack of skills. my current job isnt EBA but follows the standard they set. but they ask for the most ridiculous things now to get workers excited and to justify their existence.

without minimum wage, places like mechanics, retail stores, restaurants etc would have people working for $5/h which would then result in no-one signing up to do those jobs.... lack of competition would end up in price rises and we would all suffer. Not to mention that amount of people that would then just dole-bludge as it would pay the same...

also, i'd like to see you work for a good 12 months below minimum wage after undertaking a 1-4 year TAFE qualification and see you repeat that comment

no they would get paid more, because if they are good at what they do then the boss would reward them with higher pay to keep them rather than the unmotivated $5 an hour whingers. Instead they get a guaranteed minimum pay and still whinge and provide fk all service. We already are suffering from price rises jesus how expensive is everything these days? Penalty rates need to go as well just cos you work Sunday you don't deserve more than the poor bloke working 9-5 monday to friday unless u exceed the standard work week hours you should be paid the same.

retail is the perfect example they dont give two f*ks about customers and heck why should they? they gonna get paid regardless. I bet if they were paid bonuses or remove that safety net different story!

mate i go to work and get paid 0! its up to me to earn money day in day out so dont tell me about below minimum wage i got NO wage.

/endrant

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no they would get paid more, because if they are good at what they do then the boss would reward them

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha

you don't actually believe that would happen do you? some bosses will do this, most wont.

go to a fine dining restaurant and the only reason you get minimum wage is because it's legislated, and even then you have to work a LOT more than 38 hours to get it... like 70+

End of the day, people by nature are greedy, selfish and opportunistic assholes. without MW we would just have people taking advantage and paying far far less than they do now. If being a chef for 10 years taught me anything, it's that there is ALWAYS someone with less skill than you that will take your job for less money, and do a shit job. And employers will settle for that in 95% of situations

no doubt. Although not seeing a lot of that as banks are nowhere near as loose as years gone by

without giving too much away we now lend based on very different criteria, one of those is being assessed on a different (higher) interest rate than whatever products we are offering.

What home loan rate are NAB offering Hamish?


Commonwealth are about to jack mine up after the initial discount rate period or whatever, but considering rates are at an all time low I'm not gonna stick with them if they don't keep it the same or lower.

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