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Think it was like $150 for all four corners? Got it done at same time as all my poly bushes etc. so hard to tell. That was with Centreline too, so can prolly find cheaper at Traction Tyres?

I'm told it should be done anytime you make a height adjustment or major camber/toe change. Or lose/gain 20kg...

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probably worth more than your D1R's

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i kinda want one. name him al pacacino.

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Nah, corner weighting is done pretty quick with the right equipment...it's basically a scales for a car placed at each corner and adjust the height of the coilover until the weight distribution is as even as possible. You never get 50/50 front to rear on a skyline but you can get pretty close side to side, which is what matters more.

My huge bill was from getting Centreline to replace every bush in the suspension with polyurethane, corner weight, install hicas lock bar and alignment/balance.

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Probably not a bad bill considering, that's a fair whack of work and bushes are one of those jobs that are a pita without the right equip....

Does it involve ride height adjustments or mostly just dampner changes....Like if I had my car at a height I like would it come back a different height?

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Even with the right equipment bushes are a flamin mongrel lol. I did it once on a car and never again. Centreline reckon they put 15 hours of labour into it...removing basically the whole undercarriage which is probably a legit estimate. Oh well, good thing about poly is you only have to do it once :)

It's ride height adjustment. You can tell them a certain height that you like it at and they can try to keep it, but in the end one of the sides will need to be raised or lowered relative to the other in order to redistribute weight...unless you nailed it straight up when you installed the coilovers lol. The reality is, that a car's weight isn't evenly distributed, so giving each coilover the same position and height at all four corners, although looks nice and even, will quite likely give you a shitty weight distribution.

50/50 weight distribution after corner weighting will likely have one side sitting slightly higher than the other. Usually the driver's side to account for your weight, but manufacturers sometimes build a car to be balanced with driver's weight included. Fair few variables to it.

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Mine is crazy weird...i have about another inch tops that I can drop the front, the rear has about 3 nches more drop in it...that's with tyres sitting about 10mm from guards all around...so if I did them all even it would look very odd..

I did a couple turns more height on the right but nothing drastic...

So it's just height, they dont change dampening or tighten up your springs or anything...

Birds Grand Master

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Not that I'm aware of. How do you tighten up the springs?

Dampening shouldn't really affect weight distribution in terms of a static state, it will alter dynamics and ease of weight distribution / balance in a corner though. That may or may not have happened to me when I may or may not have put the fronts on hard and rear on soft at DECA...

A good suspension shop should be able to set you up with everything based on info you give them; track car, race at Sandown etc.

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Just went to see Need for Speed with a mate, at Knox, in the Skyline...

Come out of Ozone and start walking towards my car, boom, highway patrol, boom, divvy van... Then in a random dark side street in Vermont (Mildara St for any Birds playing along at home) there were 3 marked cars just sitting there... some random domestic or something must have happened :/ But they were all standing around glaring at me as I cruised past, I honestly expected them to light up and follow :/

Good movie actually, it's a switch your brain off and enjoy the car porn movie :) And enjoy it we did :D So glad I saw it at the movies instead of downloading a dodgy screener version...

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well the spring seats on mine are adjustable...I figure if you wound them up it would effectively change the preload on the spring...or sumtin :wacko:

Preload is how most coilovers are adjusted for height though...I wouldn't call that tightening, but you're technically correct if that's what you meant by it.

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No..vehicle height is adjusted at the base of the coilover by winding the shock deeper Into the tube.....the base of the spring seat adjusts the preload on the spring...so if you want it stiffer spring you wind it up or "tighten" it...

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Might be better in 3d but it's not fantastic...they are fast cars but just never really look like they are going fast....

I guess thats what happens when you dont use CGI

It is good entertainment though..quite alot of larfs early on actually

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