Vic Wasteland Thread

[Kinkstaah]

Nothing accidental about ingesting copious amounts of alcohol

They teach kids about the dangers of alcohol in school still don't they?

It's about as accidental as pushing a kitchen knife into your stomach

Well actually, there kind of is.

Ingesting copious amounts of alcohol is a semi deliberate choice. Ingesting the same physical volume which now has the side effect of being X times more powerful without knowledge can certainly happen when your judgement is already impaired by alcohol.

Especially when you can drink well beyond copious amounts of alcohol without drinking what you'd think to be "copious amounts" of alcohol when it's 95% alcohol.

Pretty sure everyone in this forum has had "one drink too many" even in their impeccable judgment. And if that "one drink" is dialled up into insane levels, well, this can happen.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

agreed.

As a teen, I necked entire bottles of vodka, scotch, tequila etc... if I had done that with rectified spirits... well I don't want to know what would have happened...

[HEKT1K]

I've had too many drinks on plenty of occasions and on zero of those have I tried to blame anyone but myself

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I'm not blaming anyone but myself... not at all.

The thing is, as a teenager you are a complete retard, and when it comes to drinking you don't yet know your limits.

There is only one way to learn, and with 95% alcohol you can easily go WAY over it before you even realise.

[Ants]

Boo!

Scared you again

[HEKT1K]

I'm not blaming anyone but myself... not at all.

The thing is, as a teenager you are a complete retard, and when it comes to drinking you don't yet know your limits.

There is only one way to learn, and with 95% alcohol you can easily go WAY over it before you even realise.

I was addressing the dude above your post. Banning the drink is not the answer

[Kinkstaah]

I was addressing the dude above your post. Banning the drink is not the answer

But we have the same opinion, so, what he said is what I say about the thing.

From a FREEDOMMMSS standpoint banning the drink isn't the answer.

Then again, how many times do you really require 95% alcohol shots?

... I mean if you're in that kind of situation, where only 95% alcohol works for you anymore, it may be time to consider what lead you to that scenario

This all really boils down to

"Its fine, if you excercise knowledge and judgement"

However the usage of the item impairs knowledge and judgement.

Unless you start the night with 95% alcohol shots, in which case PARTY HARD YO, but, like I said before, if you're doing this then someone should really be stopping you and saying "hey mate.... you have a problem"

... in which case there's no real downside to not selling the stuff in the first place

[Birds]

Well actually, there kind of is.

Ingesting copious amounts of alcohol is a semi deliberate choice. Ingesting the same physical volume which now has the side effect of being X times more powerful without knowledge can certainly happen when your judgement is already impaired by alcohol.

Especially when you can drink well beyond copious amounts of alcohol without drinking what you'd think to be "copious amounts" of alcohol when it's 95% alcohol.

Pretty sure everyone in this forum has had "one drink too many" even in their impeccable judgment. And if that "one drink" is dialled up into insane levels, well, this can happen.

I don't buy being drunk as an excuse for someone not knowing how drunk they are, when so many young people go around a party bragging about how smashed they are. Have been at the point of blacking out (have never fully passed out) and, yes, judgement is severely impaired, but still been able to think to myself "okay I'm fked now, that's enough for me".

So the math: she had two shots of Spirytus according to article. 500ml bottle contains 38 standard drinks.

That's 2.28 standard drinks per average 30ml shot, call it 5 standard drinks if you will. Even if those shots were seconds apart, that will not kill you. It'll get you drunk very quickly, but it won't kill you and you'll know exactly how drunk you are in 10 minutes time. If that was enough to push her over the edge for lethal dose then she simply had way too much to drink beforehand. 5 shots of whiskey would have done the same thing, or 2-3 shots of Chartreuse, or 4 full strength beers. If it can happen with Spirytus, it can happen with anything else. She just had too many drinks period and banning or controlling that drink won't stop this happening.

Yes she probably didn't mean to die from it, so if you wanna use the word accident there I'll accept that she didn't mean to die...but in the same way that I'd accept someone doing double the speed limit and crashing to be an accident. It's the idiot at the end of the bottle, not the drink. You can kill yourself with water if you're stupid enough and plenty do.

[Birds]

If we banned everything that people killed themselves with there wouldn't be a whole lot of stuff left in the world lol

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I'm a big drinker and even I think 95% alcohol is too far to be sold as a beverage.

make the cutoff 80% you could still get stroh or pure polish spirit.... if you need more than that you need fkn help lol

[Birds]

I loved that feeling of 95 evaporating off the lips

Plus if my car needs an expensive octane boost

[HEKT1K]

But we have the same opinion, so, what he said is what I say about the thing.

From a FREEDOMMMSS standpoint banning the drink isn't the answer.

Then again, how many times do you really require 95% alcohol shots?

... I mean if you're in that kind of situation, where only 95% alcohol works for you anymore, it may be time to consider what lead you to that scenario

This all really boils down to

"Its fine, if you excercise knowledge and judgement"

However the usage of the item impairs knowledge and judgement.

Unless you start the night with 95% alcohol shots, in which case PARTY HARD YO, but, like I said before, if you're doing this then someone should really be stopping you and saying "hey mate.... you have a problem"

... in which case there's no real downside to not selling the stuff in the first place

Should you really be modifying your car, given that you clearly have a severe problem with doing so?

Kinkstahh used "moralising"... It's not very effective

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Should you really be modifying your car, given that you clearly have a severe problem with doing so?

i lol'd

[Leroy Peterson]

What stance would the article have taken if she was underage?

"Binge drinking kills underage teen, parents to blame"

[emts]

Unless you start the night with 95% alcohol shots, in which case PARTY HARD YO, but, like I said before, if you're doing this then someone should really be stopping you and saying "hey mate.... you have a problem"

you don't have a problem...you have a SAU deca..

http://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/358053-deca-wrap-up-thread-round-1-2011/#entry5721694

[Birds]

Only a few days separated her from being an underage drinker

Pretty funny how black and white the law is sometimes. Do you think she grew smarter / more responsible in those few days? I'd say the opposite, in the space of a day lol

Interestingly on a similar topic, saw this article

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/poisoned-al-cohol-death-indonesia-cheznye-emmons-468702

Let's got to Bali cause we can get smashed every night and it's so f**king cheap mate.

Good luck chasing liability from an impoverished foreign country...and people get their surgeries done offshore these days...

[Birds]

Fk I want it

http://www.nicks.com.au/firestarter-vodka-700ml

Imagine if someone thought it was a real fire extinguisher and tried to put a fire out...

[emts]

Fk I want it

http://www.nicks.com.au/firestarter-vodka-700ml

Imagine if someone thought it was a real fire extinguisher and tried to put a fire out...

"This vodka was produced in Moldova from Winter wheat."

why am I so reading this as Molotov

[Count Grantleyish]

Boo!

Scared you again

Nah, you didn't.

As usual.

[KURAUN]

Fk I want it

http://www.nicks.com.au/firestarter-vodka-700ml

Imagine if someone thought it was a real fire extinguisher and tried to put a fire out...

That's been on my list for a while, most recent purchase (besides the 100 cast) was this

https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_769135/deadhead-rum-750ml