World Time Attack Challenge 2012

[Roy]

which car doesn't have aero in Pro class Roy?

There's aero, and there there is AERO.

Hopefully not something ugly as sin with aero.

As impressive as they are for the design, commitment and spend I find some of the extreme cars horrible to look at. Which is fine, I don't own them and they are designed to go uber fast, not be pretty.

I would personal;y sacrifice a bit of speed to have a car that is more "garage jewellery" spec

But I am curious how much of the extreme stuff is functional aero, we are not talking about Pikes Peaks cars which need uber downforce due to low friction surface and generally average speed less then 130km/h. Someone was telling me a car generates 1000kg of downforce! I cant see that being right, as thats more than an F1 car! So I think some numbers get thrown around and people dont stop to consider the merits of the claims.

[Russman]

Yeah I much prefer the modest aero compared to the hammerhead, 7m long silvias and batmobiles.

Cyber evo and sierra have showed that you don't need stupid protruding aero to win. Subtlety and discrete clever unseen aero mods are way cooler and still keep the cars looking tough. Cyber this year looks hideous but what can you expect from C-west. Voltex are very clever in my books. Just look around the car parks at track days and you'll see every frieken evo has a voltex wing, voltex canards, voltex front lip, voltex roof wings etc. Their products are functional but not detracting away from the original car. How many snow ploughs are c-west gunna sell after WTAC??? lol

[Angus Smart]

whats wrong with batmobiles?

[hrd-hr30]

Yeah I much prefer the modest aero compared to the hammerhead, 7m long silvias and batmobiles.

Cyber evo and sierra have showed that you don't need stupid protruding aero to win. Subtlety and discrete clever unseen aero mods are way cooler and still keep the cars looking tough. Cyber this year looks hideous but what can you expect from C-west.

this!

some of the cars still manage to make Cyber Evo look very conservative even with their horrible new hammerhead/snowplough...

they'll look pretty stupid if they don't win...

Edited June 29, 2012 by hrd-hr30

[On Edge]

WTAC open class soon to be equivalent to NASCAR

[Angus Smart]

they need/are looking for a job at red bull racing obviously is that driver in the middle of the car too?

do they even do wind tunnel testing on it also?

[Tai1or Made]

Holy batmobile Batman!

[bri73y]

That's just plain ugly, no matter how quick it is I'd never want to own/drive it!

Happy for my car to be slower but still look normal.

Reality is you'll never compete with these guys anyway so why hack the shit out of your car trying....??

[bri73y]

whats wrong with batmobiles?

Would be happy to own this though..

[Roy]

they'll look pretty stupid if they don't win...

The car has probably had 95% of its life being built and only 5% being driven and dialled in. So I dont think they will look silly if they don't win. Sure they could fall from the sky and be the quickest and win it or they could do an amazing job and be 1-3seconds off a very fast pace...no crime in that. Good on them for putting their money behind their ideas and concepts but.....like you its just not for me.

I think the NEMO EVO is one of the cars that I read was designed by Andrew Brilliant and claims 1,000kg of downforce That is amount for a tin top if realised!

I just hope the incredible spend doesnt stop the car from being developed and races in months/years to come. Its a shame that none of the R35s that ran in Pro last year are racing again this year

Personally I am rooting for the lil GT3 Exige. I understand it actually has some hp now so hopefully fly the rwd flag in Pro class along with the UAS HMAS ZED

[hrd-hr30]

do you think the car will be competitive against the overseas teams by August?

Our advantage is having people from the V8supercar background data acquisition.

She has gone above and beyond, most forms of motorsport, in regards to data acquisition. We are monitoring and logging everything we can. We even have incorporated Aero data acquisition, just for Andrew.

I know he is smiling when I say that, but so are Leigh and James in regard to Suspension data and also Nick in regard to engine data acquisition. We are not going to leave any stone unturned. We would, like everyone, like more testing time on the car, but with the adjustability of the design and the data acquisition capabilities, we believe we have a good plan that we are confident can deliver on

Having seen SSE, Cyber Evo and HKS Evo, they were all great cars created on either suspension, chassis design, weight, engine horsepower and aero, or a combination of a couple of them, but not a culmination of all of them, they took parts of each to create a great car. We wanted to achieve more, that has been our goal, to be at the forefront on each and everyone one of those areas.

big call to say all those top cars are lacking in at least a couple of major areas! and that their car has it all covered...

Edited June 29, 2012 by hrd-hr30

[ssxRicho]

Top Fuel and Voltex have a good chance this year, surely.

Light as fark, low center of gravity, mega power and sensible aero.

Same principle to the Exige crew I suppose.

PS. Booked my trailer for the event. It's getting close now!

[fatz]

i wish this format was more fun to watch

been there twice and each year i am pretty sure i see each car out there for 2 laps total on the main day

thank god there is cool shit to look at and drool over in the pits because from a druncan spectators point of view its shit racing

[R31Nismoid]

Cyber evo and sierra have showed that you don't need stupid protruding aero to win.

Yet...

That might change in the coming years. I think it'll be interesting to see how this years cars go with some of the more "out there" stuff in the builds.

Cyber this year looks hideous but what can you expect from C-west. Their products are functional but not detracting away from the original car. How many snow ploughs are c-west gunna sell after WTAC??? lol

I LOL'd

[bri73y]

i wish this format was more fun to watch

been there twice and each year i am pretty sure i see each car out there for 2 laps total on the main day

thank god there is cool shit to look at and drool over in the pits because from a druncan spectators point of view its shit racing

I'm with you fatz.

It is shit from a spectators viewpoint and in the end that may hurt the event.

I actually reckon they should use a control tyre, like a slick used in V8supertaxis, so you can go out and do multiple laps without worrying about overheating/overusing your tyres. It should be like the V8 qualifying sessions, hectic as all shit with plenty of cars and plenty of laps.

Now that'd be good to watch. Something needs to be done!!

It'll also level the playing field for normal people who don't have a $10,000 tyre budget for the weekend.

Edited June 29, 2012 by bri73y

[fatz]

I'm with you fatz.

It is shit from a spectators viewpoint and in the end that may hurt the event.

I actually reckon they should use a control tyre, like a slick used in V8supertaxis, so you can go out and do multiple laps without worrying about overheating/overusing your tyres. It should be like the V8 qualifying sessions, hectic as all shit with plenty of cars and plenty of laps.

Now that'd be good to watch. Something needs to be done!!

It'll also level the playing field for normal people who don't have a $10,000 tyre budget for the weekend.

yup 10000000% agree

[Risking]

Crap so you want me to return $9000 worth of tires I just had delivered for your GTR brighty....

I'm with you fatz.

It is shit from a spectators viewpoint and in the end that may hurt the event.

I actually reckon they should use a control tyre, like a slick used in V8supertaxis, so you can go out and do multiple laps without worrying about overheating/overusing your tyres. It should be like the V8 qualifying sessions, hectic as all shit with plenty of cars and plenty of laps.

Now that'd be good to watch. Something needs to be done!!

It'll also level the playing field for normal people who don't have a $10,000 tyre budget for the weekend.

[bri73y]

Crap so you want me to return $9000 worth of tires I just had delivered for your GTR brighty....

sssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[Nee-san]

Competitors cannot be blamed for having ugly or extensively developed aero packages, the problem is fundamental to the regulations. designers and builders would be remiss to not attempt to eek every possible advantage.

However I always thought time attack was more of a production based event, similar in many respects to Grp A and various touring car series around the world.

This isn't a stab at the event or organisers or the competitors, I went last year, loved it and I am going this year as well.

[bigmikespec]

I'm with you fatz.

It is shit from a spectators viewpoint and in the end that may hurt the event.

I actually reckon they should use a control tyre, like a slick used in V8supertaxis, so you can go out and do multiple laps without worrying about overheating/overusing your tyres. It should be like the V8 qualifying sessions, hectic as all shit with plenty of cars and plenty of laps.

Now that'd be good to watch. Something needs to be done!!

It'll also level the playing field for normal people who don't have a $10,000 tyre budget for the weekend.

If they can do more than 2-3 laps without running out of fuel or spontaneously combusting!