Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

you mean wind it before the belt goes on? you can wind it back before the belt is on; once the belt is on you can only wind it forwards, and can wind it all day but marks will still never match up, if they're out.

  • Like 1
  • 9 months later...

Just wondering it it's possible to adjust tension after you've finished putting everything back? Can i just take off the fan, belts, CAS, upper cover and re-tension? Car sounds like its got a super charger and bothers the crap outta me and makes me fear a snap one of these days at high rpm. 

Thanks guys.

57 minutes ago, hugh jaynous said:

Just wondering it it's possible to adjust tension after you've finished putting everything back? Can i just take off the fan, belts, CAS, upper cover and re-tension? Car sounds like its got a super charger and bothers the crap outta me and makes me fear a snap one of these days at high rpm. 

Thanks guys.

Nope.

To get to the tensioner you need to remove the lower cover, which requires taking the balancer off.

Is it a gates belt?

5 minutes ago, Ben C34 said:

Nope.

To get to the tensioner you need to remove the lower cover, which requires taking the balancer off.

Is it a gates belt?

Gates belt, was tensioned using two turns on crank and a bit more, leaving me with about 1/4 turn twisting the belt. Pump, tensioner, idler was all done as well.  

18 minutes ago, Ben C34 said:

Gates belts whine.

I hope you also did the cam and crank seals.

i did not.......and now i am expecting the car to explode oil at some point....no leaks at the moment though so I'm praying no problems for the mean while.

8 hours ago, hugh jaynous said:

i did not.......and now i am expecting the car to explode oil at some point....no leaks at the moment though so I'm praying no problems for the mean while.

It'll be a gradual leak if it does start. 

It is possible to have a quiet gates timing belt, the problem is they are less elastic than other brands making even a small over tighten noisy. The 1/4 turn method for gates timing belt tension is not very accurate imo.

A method that has worked for me many times on the RB is:

-Pull all slack from the belt with an allen key on the tensioner using only finger power.

-Nip up the tensioner nut and grab the short length of belt between the cam pulleys.

-Firmly wiggle that section of belt and observe how far up and down it deflects from it's flat resting place. The best measurement i found is when you can pull it up about 6mm from resting and then push it down 6mm from resting. Remember the lower sections of belt need to have no slack when checking.

-If it is too tight just back off the tensioner nut, give the belt a little slack using the allen key then nip up and check again. Remember to firmly pull all the slack into that small length between the pulleys before checking.

  • 1 year later...

Sorry to revive this thread but I ran into a snag. 

I got everything off and I'm trying to take off the crank pulley. I read and saw on videos to put the car in 5th and hand brake up. Everytime I try and remove the bolt it just turns everything counter clockwise. 

Am I missing something?

A couple of things you can try.  Firstly, in addition to what you listed above, get someone to jam their foot on the brake as hard as they can.  That might give you enough resistance to get it undone.  Put a length of pipe over your breaker bar to give you as much leverage as possible.

If all else fails and it's not highly recommended but......  Long breaker bar, large chunk of wood to prevent damage to the car (chassis rail), remove everything in the way on the passenger side of the front of the engine and loosen it with the starter motor.  Have the breaker bar sitting 6 inches above the chunk of wood and bump the key.  It might take a few goes before it comes loose.  Each time it hits but not loosens, lift the breaker bar back up where it was and bump it again.  As I say this is not highly recommended but sometimes the only way to get it loose.  Disconnect your coils so you don't start the car....

Shocking quality video but you get the idea.  He's doing it the "underhand" way but eaither way will work deepending of which side you have more room.

 

 

  • Like 1

I tried it initially with my wife in the car, foot on the brakes, e brake up and car was in 4th. Didn't try it with it in 5th and the rest. 

I took the valve covers off cuz I was gonna repaint them and also have the turbo side off cuz Im going to rebuild the.

Dont think I'll be able to bump it to brake the bolt loose. 

It'll be fine with what you've removed. You're not trying to start it so no problem. It's just a quick hit on the starter 4 or 5 times. If done right zero issues. 

59 minutes ago, Shoota_77 said:

It'll be fine with what you've removed. You're not trying to start it so no problem. It's just a quick hit on the starter 4 or 5 times. If done right zero issues. 

Ok. I'll give it a try tomorrow. Wrapped up for the night worked on it all day. Appreciate the rapid response. 

Good job! 

It is tricky to get it tightened to the correct torque with the engine still in the car. It won't take as much effort to torque it as it was to loosen though. Definitely use a torque wrench (a big one!) to get it to the right torque as it coming loose is worse than it being hard to get off!

18 minutes ago, Shoota_77 said:

Good job! 

It is tricky to get it tightened to the correct torque with the engine still in the car. It won't take as much effort to torque it as it was to loosen though. Definitely use a torque wrench (a big one!) to get it to the right torque as it coming loose is worse than it being hard to get off!

I have the torque wrench so I'm ready for it, it was like 300+ something ft pounds (ill check the manual). Dont think my belt was ever changed. It's not cracked but it was loose. Glad I didn't skip a tooth or something. I had been ripping it around town for a little while. 

  • 2 weeks later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • As discussed in the previous post, the bushes in the 110 needed replacing. I took this opportunity to replace the castor bushes, the front lower control arm, lower the car and get the alignment dialled in with new tyres. I took it down to Alignment Motorsports on the GC to get this work done and also get more out of the Shockworks as I felt like I wasn't getting the full use out of them.  To cut a very long story short, it ended up being the case the passenger side castor arm wouldn't accept the brand new bush as the sleeve had worn badly enough to the point you could push the new bush in by hand and completely through. Trying a pair of TRD bushes didn't fix the issue either (I had originally gone with Hardrace bushes). We needed to urgently source another castor arm, and thankfully this was sourced and the guys at the shop worked on my car until 7pm on a Saturday to get everything done. The car rides a lot nicer now with the suspension dialled in properly. Lowered the car a little as well to suit the lower profile front tyres, and just bring the car down generally. Eternally thankful for the guys down at the shop to get the car sorted, we both pulled big favours from our contacts to get it done on the Saturday.  Also plugged in the new Stedi foglights into the S15, and even from a quick test in the garage I'm keen to see how they look out on the road. I had some concerns about the length of the LED body and whether it'd fit in the foglight housing but it's fine.  I've got a small window coming up next month where I'll likely get a little paint work done on the 110 to remove the rear wing, add a boot wing and roof wing, get the side skirt fixed up and colour match the little panel on the tail lights so that I can install some badges that I've kept in storage. I'm also tempted to put in a new pair of headlights on the 110.  Until then, here's some more pictures from Easter this year. 
    • I would put a fuel pressure gauge between the filter and the fuel rail, see if it's maintaining good fuel pressure at idle going up to the point when it stalls. Do you see any strange behavior in commanded fuel leading up to the point when it stalls? You might have to start going through the service manual and doing a long list of sensor tests if it's not the fuel system for whatever reason.
    • Hi,  Just joined the forum so I could share my "fix" of this problem. Might be of use to someone. Had the same hunting at idle issue on my V36 with VQ35HR engine after swapping the engine because the original one got overheated.  While changing the engine I made the mistake of cleaning the throttle bodies and tried all the tricks i could find to do a throttle relearn with no luck. Gave in and took it to a shop and they couldn't sort it. Then took it to my local Nissan dealership and they couldn't get it to idle properly. They said I'd need to replace the throttle bodies and the ecu probably costing more than the car is worth. So I had the idea of replacing the carbon I cleaned out with a thin layer of super glue and it's back to normal idle now. Bit rough but saved the car from the wreckers 🤣
    • After my last update, I went ahead with cleaning and restoring the entire fuel system. This included removing the tank and cleaning it with the Beyond Balistics solution, power washing it multiple times, drying it thoroughly, rinsing with IPA, drying again with heat gun and compressed air. Also, cleaning out the lines, fuel rail, and replacing the fuel pump with an OEM-style one. During the cleaning process, I replaced several hoses - including the breather hose on the fuel tank, which turned out to be the cause of the earlier fuel leak. This is what the old fuel filter looked like: Fuel tank before cleaning: Dirty Fuel Tank.mp4   Fuel tank after cleaning (some staining remains): Clean Fuel Tank.mp4 Both the OEM 270cc and new DeatschWerks 550cc injectors were cleaned professionally by a shop. Before reassembling everything, I tested the fuel flow by running the pump output into a container at the fuel filter location - flow looked good. I then fitted the new fuel filter and reassembled the rest of the system. Fuel Flow Test.mp4 Test 1 - 550cc injectors Ran the new fuel pump with its supplied diagonal strainer (different from OEM’s flat strainer) and my 550cc injectors using the same resized-injector map I had successfully used before. At first, it idled roughly and stalled when I applied throttle. Checked the spark plugs and found that they were fouled with carbon (likely from the earlier overly rich running when the injectors were clogged). After cleaning the plugs, the car started fine. However, it would only idle for 30–60 seconds before stalling, and while driving it would feel like a “fuel cut” after a few seconds - though it wouldn’t fully stall. Test 2 – Strainer swap Suspecting the diagonal strainer might not be reaching the tank bottom, I swapped it for the original flat strainer and filled the tank with ~45L of fuel. The issue persisted exactly the same. Test 3 – OEM injectors To eliminate tuning variables, I reinstalled the OEM 270cc injectors and reverted to the original map. Cleaned the spark plugs again just in-case. The stalling and “fuel cut” still remained.   At this stage, I suspect an intermittent power or connection fault at the fuel pump hanger, caused during the cleaning process. This has led me to look into getting Frenchy’s fuel hanger and replacing the unit entirely. TL;DR: Cleaned and restored the fuel system (tank, lines, rail, pump). Tested 550cc injectors with the same resized-injector map as before, but the car stalls at idle and experiences what feels like “fuel cut” after a few seconds of driving. Swapped back to OEM injectors with original map to rule out tuning, but the issue persists. Now suspecting an intermittent power or connection fault at the fuel pump hanger, possibly cause by the cleaning process.  
×
×
  • Create New...