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Whilst I am a die hard PC gamer i still quite like the possibility of a media centre gaming console which I am hoping the PS4 will offer.

It was officially announced this morning (read comments section at the bottom)

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PlayStation-Event-Announcement-PS4-PS-Vita,21202.html

Hopefully this time it will play MKV files and not just MP4 like the PS3 :-(

If only there was another device that combined everything about the PS4: x86 processor, PC based GPU, 8GB RAM...

Oh wait, thats right. You can just build a PC.

i love my PS3. bluray, media server, USB movies (before TVs came standard with USB slots) and HD graphics. might not have been a game changer, but certainly showed the 360 how it was done.

Just hope they improve the interface, improve Wifi speeds, and the hardware potential can actually be unleashed. But even then, it will take more than a few good games to make me want to spend decent money on the PS4.

ode to PS3:

i love my PS3. bluray, media server, USB movies (before TVs came standard with USB slots) and HD graphics. might not have been a game changer, but certainly showed the 360 how it was done.

Just hope they improve the interface, improve Wifi speeds, and the hardware potential can actually be unleashed. But even then, it will take more than a few good games to make me want to spend decent money on the PS4.

ode to PS3:

Dafaq? All it has on the Xbox is Bluray. Xbox game selection pisses on the PS as does the Dashboard and Xbox Live.

Everything else is pretty equal.

also the youtube on playstation is terrible, terrible quality, terrible load times. my xbox works well.

also to the playstation has free internet argument

edit: about to turn into a big xbox vs ps fight

I like the bit about the RAM. With unified DDR5 and the fact that there's 8GB of it, whilst keeping in mind that it doesn't require the overheads that's involved with PCs, there's potential for a pretty wicked system.

I also hoped for some more technical details on the CPU - in due time, I guess.

The new controller has still got that old school resemblance, which is pretty sweet too.

OK specs have now been announced:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/playstation-4-ps4-amd-apu-hardware,21191.html

8 core CPU sounds good, gives us PC users at least ..... 4 weeks until we have a system well ahead of it :-)

Oh... and No i dont work for Toms Hardware, i do love their tech articles though, hence the links!

i'm a console game from waaaaay back (had a NES as a kid) don't give a shit as to whether you can buy a pc that is better than a console. there's a good chance it will cost you more too. and at least with a console you know that every game is going to work just fine and not have possible hardware compatiability issues, or you need to upgrade it every 3 weeks to be able to play the latest game that has come out. those of us that aren't computer nerds can just buy the console, buy the games, put them in and play away whenever we want. and we can take games to our mates place and not have to worry about whether their system will handle it or not.

consoles are perfect for those of us that where computers aren't our favoured past time.

Yeah, nothing the modern pc can't handle

That's true, but kinda not the point. I haven't had to upgrade a graphics card or a CPU or RAM during the 6 years I've owned a PS3, this is one of the appeals of having a console. I also work on my computer all day, I want to be away from it when I am playing games. It's not that the other can't achieve the results or anything, it's a horses for courses thing.

Yeah valid points

Don't get me wrong I spent many an hour wasting time on my mega drive II and ps1 I went halves in a ps2 bought like 3 games then tried rainbow 6 the original on pc and never looked back

If you upgrade smart don't get shit when its just released you can save a bit on hardware costs also

I haven't upgraded my graphics cards in 4 years so please stop spouting that crap.

The Jaguar is a competitor to.....the Intel Atom CPUs, low power consumption mobile style. So now not only PCs will bypass them...but tablets too and likely in short order.

Seeing as both the PS4 and the xbox will be nearly identical this time around it will all be down to games (and how quickly one is hacked to run the others).

Some of the possible licensing options for both the PS4 and xbox are pretty much ruling them out for me as media centres or game consoles. I have a MK802 that can play HD and a PC that has all my games on it. Shit, my phone can playback "Full HD" including MKVs etc.

Now that it seems like consoles are going to be built like a PC porting the games over between PC PS4 and X box will be much easier for companies to make. So hopefully this means less money on BS and more money on better games because out of the 100000 of games that comes out on all these platforms there are only a handful of good ones.

Now that it seems like consoles are going to be built like a PC porting the games over between PC PS4 and X box will be much easier for companies to make. So hopefully this means less money on BS and more money on better games because out of the 100000 of games that comes out on all these platforms there are only a handful of good ones.

That's unlikely to change.

The crap ones will look a little nicer though.

the ps4 and the new xbox will be identical. The xbox will have blu-ray. All it will come down to is if you want killzone or halo TBH... Or forza or gran turismo. To be perfectly honest if you remove the Blu-ray player the xbox has been the top dog ever since release. (this is coming from 6 years experience selling the shit) so it will be interesting what sony does to the PSN to fix it. The Australian Gaming market is a joke though. The amount we pay for things here is through the roof. COD on release is $49.95 in america It's crazy.

Also anyone that says pc gaming is better is right and wrong. PC gaming has much higher up keep costs and to tell yourself differently is a lie. It also has more issues and the ports from console are usually bad. However. If you are willing to put the cash in and are happy every now and then spending an hour or two to get a game to run then consoles will never compare.

Oh also ill add: why the fk have sony not updated their bloody controller design. it has not been changed since the ps1 and its a terribly designed ergonomic controller.

In conclusion of above: a playstation fan will say that its the best, same with xbox same with pc. Its just how it is.

Anyway rant over: let the hate flow through you.

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