M35 Blown Turbo?

[baymanx]

Hi everyone,

I think i have a blown turbo on my 03, 250 rx t . It has 95k on the clock and its stock other than a turbo back exhaust system.

This afternoon i could not start the car, a cpl of tries later it did start but something was wrong. It was running very poor and i could smell oil burning and it would deny to rev above 3000. I just wanted to get an idea of you guys before i call a mechanic in to tell me what it is and how much it would cost to fix it.

Similar posts were made by fellow stagea owners and there were some nasty numbers quoted.

So any advice will be most appreciated.

I would have expected the turbo to last more than 100k kms especially if its left stock, but oh well i think sh*t happens....

There is also another problem that i would like to mention. Recently when i brake it feels like the disks need machining but the funny thing is i do not feel it on the brake but on the gear knob instead.

one mechanic told me that it could be the front lower control arms which i purchased from Japan, then another mechanic told me that the arms were ok but the prob is from the diff mounting bush. Geting confused , took the car to another mechanic and to my surprise he said it wasnt the diff mounting bush either and he could not identify the problem.

Told me that it would be ok and not to worry too much.

But the thing is if i go a bit heavy on the accelerator, it really can be felt even when you are not the driver.

First things first, i think i need to fix the turbo in a most cost efficient way as i m in between jobs at the moment......

Thank you all kindly

Murat

[ClassOne]

Rebuild turbo is 800 + , getting it out and re fitting is another story.

If you can't DIY expect to pay a hefty fee.

[bigkevracer]

Where are you? There are a few guys in here that can do it for a fair price if you're in Sydney or Melbourne.

[Jetwreck]

I can do the turbo in Sydney! Looks like the mechs are taking shots in the dark! Did you say it's only under brakes.....if so more than likely when the car arrived here it was driven off the boat with the handbrake on....that being said you should only need the rear rotors machined or replaced.

Btw by the time you finish the turbo with all parts drive in drive out its about $2k.

[baymanx]

Got a friends' mechanic friend coming to have a look at it today just to diagnose the prob. Started the engine again this morning, it was idling sort of ok and was able to move the car a bit, but engine light was on and it was still smoky. Thanks for the input, once i make sure its the turbo, i ll pm you if you dont mind Jetwreck.

Oh and i m in Sydney now, used to be ACT....

Edited March 2, 2013 by baymanx

[Jetwreck]

Not a problem....what area are you in. If your local to me I can pop around and check it out.

[baymanx]

The mechanic thinks its quite likely the air flow meter, not the turbo... but i really wouldnt mind a nother opinion from someone who really knows a lot about this model.

I live in westmead, i would really appreciate if you could spare some time to have a look at it, i can give you my mobile if i m in your area or close to you. But if its not on your way or close, i will just look for a replacement air flow meter which i would assume should cost a lot cheaper than a turbo..

Cheers

Murat

[Jetwreck]

Sorry man in not very close at all. By genuine Nissan from a Nissan dealer and get you mate to install it....that way you should hold some warranty.

[iamhe77]

Blown turbo does not cause limp mode. Best bet is the air flow meter.

[m35stagea]

What sort of smoke?

Black = fuel

Blue/white= oil

White/moisture=coolant

Limp mode doesnt cause smoke from my experience

[scotty nm35]

But limp mode does cause an engine light to be displayed, and that means the ecu has a story to tell. I would be checking that out first before changing the AFM.

[m35stagea]

I dint get an engine light from limp mode.

Or I do but my globe is out

[baymanx]

i ll get a brand new afm from nissan and install it.. unfortunately i dont know how to read the error codes even tho i went thru the posts which explain it.

the smoke is dark color more like black than blue or white. But i can certainly smell some oil burning too.

i ll post the results when i get the new afm.

Cheers

[PN-Mad]

I dint get an engine light from limp mode.

Or I do but my globe is out

I bet your globe has been disconnected. Codes were lodged on the ecu, which means they should bring up the light the next time the car is started.

[bigkevracer]

i ll get a brand new afm from nissan and install it.. unfortunately i dont know how to read the error codes even tho i went thru the posts which explain it.

the smoke is dark color more like black than blue or white. But i can certainly smell some oil burning too.

i ll post the results when i get the new afm.

Cheers

I had trouble with reading the error codes too. You just need to read through the instructions and try it a couple of times: http://m35stagea.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11

Here's the code explanation: http://m35stagea.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12

Once you've had a couple of goes you'll get it. Makes it a lot easier to fix once you know whats going on.

[Daleo]

I had trouble with reading the error codes too. You just need to read through the instructions and try it a couple of times: http://m35stagea.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11

Here's the code explanation: http://m35stagea.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12

Once you've had a couple of goes you'll get it. Makes it a lot easier to fix once you know whats going on.

+1.

Once you've had a couple of goes; it gets easier.

[baymanx]

ok i tried this a few times and it was unsuccessfull. I am doing it exactly as the post says which i followed the link above. It is quite straight forward, when i turn the ignition on but not start it, all the lights come on including abs and airbag which go off in a cpl of secs, thats when i start pushing and releasing the accelerator which didnt work. I tried this when the ignition on when only the radio is on as well and didnt work again.

I will go to Lander Nissan to get a new afm , hopefully the mechanic is correct and i will get away with just the afm.

Thanks for all the input i really appreciate it.

[iamhe77]

If you are going to Nissan, have them read the error code before you get a new AFM just to be sure that is the issue.
No way should you buy new parts without knowing the error codes first!

Regarding the code retrieval process, you may be counting your second too quickly. Get a watch with a second hand to time it correctly if unsure... also make sure you wait the 3 seconds after turning the car to ON.

[baymanx]

Ok i will try it a few more times b4 i go and get the part. I called a cpl of nissan spare parts and have been told different figures which is interesting. One said $650 plus tax for afm , and $255 for sensor only, the other said $355 plus tax.

I am sure if i only replace the sensor it should work if the problem is only the sensor right?

i have the part number as 22680N21A. Is this correct? also how much should i expect it be for? there is none on ebay at the moment. Where else can i source one in Australia if i need to?

Cheers

[Commsman]

Rang my spare parts guy & the part number I gave him has been superseeded by 22680--6N21A (T-30 AFM). He showed list price as $314 & trade price as $262.

That makes your $255 price the right one & a pretty good deal by my stealership-o-meter. He also said there were none showing on the computer as being in the country but one/some? were due into Vic in a few weeks.

I think it's about time I made some enquiries into a bulk purchase so we can have some on hand & for a better price.