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SUMMER 2013 TECH NIGHT by SAU.NSW
in conjunction with and hosted by CARBON CAR SYSTEMS

Many Thanks to Daniel Gardener and His Staff (Dave, David, Colin & Kim) for helping SAU.NSW set up this final big night out for 2013.
Carbon Car Systems is a Car Security/ Car Tinting/Car Sound System Firm of choice - used by many car sales yards around Western Sydney, and they are very experienced with grey import cars from Japan.

Day/Date:- Friday 6th December
Time:- 6.30pm till about 9-ish
Place:- Carbon Car Systems HQ at Unit21/47 Third Ave Blacktown
Access:- Easy left hand turn whilst northbound off (Balmoral St and then) Third Ave. It cannot be accessed if you're going southbound. Suitable for low-lip cars.
Parking:- Anywhere in this industrial estate.
Limited To:- Members Only x32 plus Execs x8 = 40 all up
Price:- Free Of Charge
Snacks and Drinks:- Offered and Supplied graciously by CCS

The Night & Topics
* Feed Tummy
* Available Security Systems On The Market
* Tracking Systems
* ADR and Its Meaning
* Battery Drain
* Common Problems
* Tint and Its Legality
* In-Car-Cams
* Question Time

So If You're A Member, Register Now!
If not, then join up straight away!

1) MrFijiGold (M)
2) zebra (M)
3) r32-25t (M)
4) RiseofBrutality (M)
5) rs88 (M)
6) DekA (M)
7) Victory (M)
8) Clinton (M)
9) R34Liner (M)
10) blackjack404 (M)
11) twotwisted (M)
12) GOD12A (M)
13) SkudR33 (M)
14)
15) cpd (M)
16) Owens (M)
17)
18) Watchamacallit (M)
19) ianjb (M)
20) TREGTR (M)
21) PN-Mad (M)
22) Wongy (M)
23) Wongy #2 (M)
24) central coast person (M)
25) central coast person #2 (M)
26) smiik33 (M pending)
27) Cherry Racer (M)
28)
29) t5iv (P from Qld) brother
30) t5iv (P from Qld) guest associate
31) kartman9400 (R33 GT-R LM owner and SAU guest from France)
32)

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Execs

1) CLNSKY (E)
2) Daleo (E)
3) Terry_GT-R34 (E)
4) crashdown (E)
5) Aggroman (VP)
6) GoldZilla (VP)
7) Tats (P)
8) t5iv (P from Qld)

Reserve List

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*** All advice and demonstrations given by workshops, professional practices and factories for SAU.NSW Tech Nights are the responsibility (of accuracy) of the establishments - not the car club.

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Count me in for this

Terry, like I said at Texi, if you need a hand with this tech night let me know. I'm only like 10 minutes away from CCS

Your support is always reliable - so thank you Adam.

I'll let you know...

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