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You need data from the car. Imagine Pastor gives you a tap in the first corner. 6 laps later you are going into a 6th gear 280km/h sweeper and your rear wing fails. Someone can be hurt of killed, spectators , marshalls....when if the pit could see that they had strange downforce readings they will pick up that the rear wing may be damaged. Ditto ERS systems. Can see for verious safety reasons they need to be able to monitor the health of the cars

Easy. Publish a list of what is ok to transmit for safety reasons. Rest can be logged only. Can be a on/off go/no go signal so if for example the aero load goes below a certain value then the fault signal gets sent and the driver pits. Still better than Fernando is faster than you style nonsense.

There won't be a problem if the it is monitored by the stewards, even post race. Judge whatever the teams say and penalise calls that break the rules.

As above - Rear tyre/aero failing, a radio message telling the driver that there may be a problem with the rear tyre/aero - acceptable

Radio the driver telling them - setting 3 for diff, should see a 0.1sec gain in sector 2 - not acceptable

I think, as mentioned, some 'reactive' radio transmission need to occur for safety reasons. I don't think you can simply program the car to send a good/bad status signal. The cars probably have at least 2 sensors for just about everything, imagine what happens when a sensor fails? And believe me it does happen. The car would immediatly send a bad signal. Teams need to be able to watch parameters to avoid grey areas like this.

I know there will be 100 different coded messages to get around the rules for radio transmissions in these situations, but to me its something the teams have to have. Theres alot of reasons for and against, but this is how I see it anyway

There won't be a problem if the it is monitored by the stewards, even post race. Judge whatever the teams say and penalise calls that break the rules.

As above - Rear tyre/aero failing, a radio message telling the driver that there may be a problem with the rear tyre/aero - acceptable

Radio the driver telling them - setting 3 for diff, should see a 0.1sec gain in sector 2 - not acceptable

I think, as mentioned, some 'reactive' radio transmission need to occur for safety reasons. I don't think you can simply program the car to send a good/bad status signal. The cars probably have at least 2 sensors for just about everything, imagine what happens when a sensor fails? And believe me it does happen. The car would immediatly send a bad signal. Teams need to be able to watch parameters to avoid grey areas like this.

I know there will be 100 different coded messages to get around the rules for radio transmissions in these situations, but to me its something the teams have to have. Theres alot of reasons for and against, but this is how I see it anyway

Be sad to miss out on the lulz when the drivers cant remember what the codes mean.

"Kimi, the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain."

"WTF does that mean".

But more seriously subjectivity in rule interpretation is usually where you get the biggest shit fights. eg its ok for Ferrari to install their barge boards on the piss but its not ok for anyone to drive around a hundred metres in front of them in quali lest they upset their aero.

Also if they can trust a fuel flow meter to be within 1% accurate they can trust a temperature or pressure or strain gauge,surely? None of that prevents the info coming up on the steering wheel. Some of the teams are already having a whinge their displays are too small.

Be sad to miss out on the lulz when the drivers cant remember what the codes mean.

"Kimi, the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain."

"WTF does that mean".

But more seriously subjectivity in rule interpretation is usually where you get the biggest shit fights. eg its ok for Ferrari to install their barge boards on the piss but its not ok for anyone to drive around a hundred metres in front of them in quali lest they upset their aero.

Also if they can trust a fuel flow meter to be within 1% accurate they can trust a temperature or pressure or strain gauge,surely? None of that prevents the info coming up on the steering wheel. Some of the teams are already having a whinge their displays are too small.

His response would more likely be

"yeah yeah yeah I know where the rain falls in Spain you don't have to tell me all the time "

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Hmm Kimi must be spewing. He finally finds some speed and the car fails him.

Lots of anger about. Grosjean with the dummy spit, Britney the same. Good job by Dan, Massa and Homo too.

Should be a cracker of a race. Wonder how long the super softs will last.

Disappointing Q3 from. Ferrari.. They seemed to be right on the pace all weekend.. Pretty close to the mercs times but dissapointing to be so far down the grid... Hopefully they can both get off to a good start and make it an interesting race

Some of them kick in at Singapore, others like tyre and brakes take effect from Japan.

Pretty dumb if you ask me. Implement strict 100kg fuel limts. Ban teams and drivers from talking about fuel during race.

You can't tell your driver when to back off to save fuel, but you can tell him when to push and not save fuel. huh?

No talk about ERS states and adjustments might mean people will retire due to problems with the system. Same goes for brake temp/wear but it's pretty easy to configure dash warning for that one and any driver seeing a rear brake temp/wear issue would know how to handle that. Not neccesarily so easy with ERS.

The way I read it, you can tell a driver to save fuel, you just can't tell them how much. But there is also a simple fix to this. Fuel the car with enough fuel to race hard for the whole race, instead of for 90% of the race and hope for a safety car.

As for telling them how fast others are, they can still do it, just not as far as sectors go. They can give lap times.

Personally I think the changes are a good thing. Less micro managing, more just driving

Magnussen deserved a penalty - the other car was fully alongside - you can't just run them off the road in that situation. The only harsh part is that one certain other driver has been getting away with the exact same thing all season for some reason...

Stewards are a joke. AJ, I'm looking at you... Last race Magnussen gets pinged for running someone off the track ont he exit of a corner. Lst night a Lotus did the same thing to JEV and JEV got pinged for exceeded track limits. Get your shit together FIA. Any normal category has a single driving standards position for consistent decisions. Time the world's premier series did the same ffs.

Yeah some favourite RBR tracks coming up where they'll be as close to Mercedes as they're ever going to be. Singapore, Suzuka...

scrap that. They might be RBR favourite tracks, but they were no closer to the Mercs when they stopped fooling around. RBR can forget Suzuka too. They'll be fighting to be best of the rest.

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