Suggestions on a new clutch?

[thenixtone]

Hey everyone,

 

Need a new clutch for more power / current one is worn, I have the GTT (RB25DET Neo) was wondering if anyone has any tips on what to look for?

Will any aftermarket single plate do? Currently looking at https://www.gameonmotorsports.com.au/npc-nissan-skyline-r33-gtr-pull-type-clutch-r34-gt~44571

Looking to make about 375kw~

Edited July 17, 2019 by thenixtone

[Ben C34]

Who knows. I don't think anyone has replaced a clutch before.

I would not ever call or email clutch placed and ask them. They know nothing

[thenixtone]

Ah right, my bad, I thought this was a forum.. for discussions. A clutch place isn't going to tell me if their clutch is shit, are they?

Edited July 17, 2019 by thenixtone

[Ben C34]

10 minutes ago, thenixtone said:

Ah right, my bad, I thought this was a forum.. for discussions. A clutch place isn't going to tell me if their clutch is shit, are they?

Maybe they would if you asked about an unsuitable model in a particular application.

call npc. Tell them what you want. Call Jim Berry. Call acs

[GTSBoy]

21 minutes ago, thenixtone said:

Ah right, my bad, I thought this was a forum.. for discussions. A clutch place isn't going to tell me if their clutch is shit, are they?

On that basis, we could trot out the passive aggressive claim that no-one has ever asked that question on this forum before and that it would be impossible to search for previous/recent discussion.

[WMDC35]

OS R3C

[niZmO_Man]

I suggest this
http://www.kudosmotorsports.com/catalog/nismo-super-coppermix-twin-plate-comp-spec-clutch-lightweight-flywheel-suit-nissan-skyline-021993-25gt-p-590.html

 

But this topic has been covered many times. Put the effort in to search for information.

[thenixtone]

6 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

On that basis, we could trot out the passive aggressive claim that no-one has ever asked that question on this forum before and that it would be impossible to search for previous/recent discussion.

You mean like the original passive aggressive comment I was responding to? 

And of course I searched. Its hard to find information with exact power figures. How do you think I came across the NPC clutch that people on here recommend..? 

Every thread that COULD be answered elsewhere is useless apparently.

 

Besides 'this one fits' I was after actual experiences and feedback.

Edited July 18, 2019 by thenixtone

[WR33KD]

OS R3C here aswell, only clutch you will ever need

[thebe]

Budget? Where/how you are using the car?

 

I have ACT 6 Puck with Extreme pressure plate (rated to 830nm iirc) on my rb30/25 street car (550hp/730nm) and Im happy with it. We dont really have bad traffic here where I live though

 

 

[wildeagle44]

I have the NPC single plate, 6 puk. Great clutch, 4 years of abuse at 330kw. Light under foot but very bitey. 

[thenixtone]

Thanks everyone for your feedback, my budget is to hopefully spend less than 1.5k for a good one. It will be daily'd with some light abuse, next tune I'm getting will hopefully be around 370kw~

[joshuaho96]

You probably have to go twin plate for 370 kw.

[BK]

On ‎18‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 4:46 PM, WR33KD said:

OS R3C here aswell, only clutch you will ever need

In a rwd application under 400kw yes, so fine for the GTT in this application, but not in a GTR launching at 7000rpm +. I killed a brand new one in one drag weekend, completely warping the metallic floating discs to the point the clutch wouldn't disengage.

Probably not relevant in this situation, but just pointing out that they are not the "be all to end all" of clutches at all. They also drive like shit on the street, very hair trigger engagement.

[WR33KD]

Mines mint she feels like a standard clutch, done plenty of hard take offs and still feels great. I’m over 400kw and rwd and it’s the bees knees and it has a changeable centre not like others

[thenixtone]

2 minutes ago, WR33KD said:

Mines mint she feels like a standard clutch, done plenty of hard take offs and still feels great. I’m over 400kw and rwd and it’s the bees knees and it has a changeable centre not like others

What you got?

 

1 hour ago, BK said:

In a rwd application under 400kw yes, so fine for the GTT in this application, but not in a GTR launching at 7000rpm +. I killed a brand new one in one drag weekend, completely warping the metallic floating discs to the point the clutch wouldn't disengage.

Probably not relevant in this situation, but just pointing out that they are not the "be all to end all" of clutches at all. They also drive like shit on the street, very hair trigger engagement.

Jesus..

 

Is the difference between button and cushion button that big of a deal for street driving?

[Ben C34]

29 minutes ago, thenixtone said:

What you got?

 

Jesus..

 

Is the difference between button and cushion button that big of a deal for street driving?

Nope. The cushion has very little effect. A button clutch is going to be pretty much off or on and  don't like slipping

 

[BK]

1 hour ago, WR33KD said:

Mines mint she feels like a standard clutch, done plenty of hard take offs and still feels great. I’m over 400kw and rwd and it’s the bees knees and it has a changeable centre not like others

All multiplate clutches have a changeable centre hub by design, so thats not anything special. Maybe your R3C seems a bit nicer to drive in a rwd car, because any metallic triple plate I've had in a GTR has a hair trigger and not really slippable, definitely nowhere near a standard or full face clutch plate type. I've had ORC (Ogura), Xtreme (ACS), Exedy and OS Giken all in triples and all basically felt like the same clutch.

OP, The Nismo twin, NPC twin or even the OS giken TS2B will probably be a nicer clutch to drive for you and handle your power for quite sometime. $1500 or less though is going to limit you to buying a single plate though, as I think you'll need to stretch a bit more to at least go a twin or triple if you can afford it.

[GTSBoy]

$2.5K is the right price point to be asking this question.

[thenixtone]

1 hour ago, BK said:

All multiplate clutches have a changeable centre hub by design, so thats not anything special. Maybe your R3C seems a bit nicer to drive in a rwd car, because any metallic triple plate I've had in a GTR has a hair trigger and not really slippable, definitely nowhere near a standard or full face clutch plate type. I've had ORC (Ogura), Xtreme (ACS), Exedy and OS Giken all in triples and all basically felt like the same clutch.

OP, The Nismo twin, NPC twin or even the OS giken TS2B will probably be a nicer clutch to drive for you and handle your power for quite sometime. $1500 or less though is going to limit you to buying a single plate though, as I think you'll need to stretch a bit more to at least go a twin or triple if you can afford it.

Awesome, thanks for the info. Think I'm going to spend the money and get the coppermix.