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Komdotkom
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Komdotkom Rising Star

Komdotkom

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Sadly it's the way to sell things these days. It's all about the sizzle not the sausage.

Don't get me wrong I think it's a decent product, I just hate all the marketing bullshit. I suppose middle aged sceptical men are not their target market though. Surely it would be worth their while to fund a shop to do a back to back?

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Dose Pipe Sutututu Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Komdotkom said:

suppose middle aged sceptical men are not their target market though

Because we've had many years/decades of playing with these turbo charged shit boxes and know what works and what doesn't work through trial and error or through others.

Also we don't adhere to flex culture.

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Butters Experienced

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So an opportunity to get one popped up and I bought in. 

Not as impressed as I hoped to be(near 2k manifold remember) , it's got some weight and I will put on scales next to a 6boost soon to compare. 

The small gate flange is insulting and whilst they say you can run a 50mm I expected the gate runner to be bigger. 

Swapping the flange over is going to be a PITA. 

 

The good stuff:

The facing on the head side is amazing I can see that being a good seal. 

The overall finish is really really good.

 

Will be a long while before I fit this and as always remember I am not a mechanic, the above is an opinion of enthusiast :)  

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bcozican Experienced

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10 hours ago, Komdotkom said:

I tried to fit mine today, manifold drilling was miles out and will not fit. Woeful alignment, who knows what the ports will be like...

Waiting to hear from Artec next week. 

🙄 seems to be a thing

Runners smaller that engine ports

Eject..

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Komdotkom Rising Star

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17 hours ago, bcozican said:

🙄 seems to be a thing

Runners smaller that engine ports

Eject..

Suggested alternatives?

I quite like the look of these

https://www.waltonmotorsport.com/product/walton-motorsport-rb-turbo-manifold-rb20-rb25-rb26/

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16 hours ago, Komdotkom said:

Suggested alternatives?

I quite like the look of these

https://www.waltonmotorsport.com/product/walton-motorsport-rb-turbo-manifold-rb20-rb25-rb26/

apparently fitment issues fixed in latest models am yet to see or hear though 

It'll work - especially coz you not running big power I assume given rally ? just keep an eye on EMAP - they are a nice bit of gear just for that $ you want things to be 100% and also better than the competition

I got 'redirected' to tried and proven 6 boob but aiming for bigger power end 

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Dose Pipe Sutututu

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No love for Sinco?

I run a T3 twin scroll manifold, with both scrolls split to the gate flange/seat. Clears ABS too, with a 50mm gate.

No funny boost control issues, can go from 0.5 to 1.8 bar of boost with a 4 port valve.

If you look at 6 Boobs, their single gate "twin scroll" manifold, where the start of the bend for the wastegate mount,the division stops, thus you're not maximising the scavenging effects.

 

Komdotkom Rising Star

Komdotkom

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I heard from Artec today (after I emailed them again) and they were very apologetic and stated that the early manifolds had QC issues. They offered to pay the courier costs to them for rectification and return back to me. Their solution is to enlarge the holes, they assure me the port alignment is good. I said that I've got access to a mill and will just fix it myself and send them the bill, it'll be cheaper than the couriers anyway and not done with a die grinder.

I'll stick the inspection camera down there and see what the port interface is like.

1 hour ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

No love for Sinco?

I run a T3 twin scroll manifold, with both scrolls split to the gate flange/seat. Clears ABS too, with a 50mm gate.

No funny boost control issues, can go from 0.5 to 1.8 bar of boost with a 4 port valve.

If you look at 6 Boobs, their single gate "twin scroll" manifold, where the start of the bend for the wastegate mount,the division stops, thus you're not maximising the scavenging effects.

 

Yep, I totally would have had a Sinco instead and they were my first choice but it was almost impossible to purchase anything from them. I called and emailed a few times and got no response. I'm not a fan of the WG integration on the 6Boost products, but they seem to make good power.

My fabricator is a full boffin and wants to make something but I don't have time for that.

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Dose Pipe Sutututu Grand Master

Dose Pipe Sutututu

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4 hours ago, Komdotkom said:

I called and emailed a few times and got no response

I bought mine via a reseller and took a out a month to get here.

Most of these fab, one to two man teams are pretty shit house when it comes to eComm/marketing/business efficiency, etc.

They really need someone like me to come help them scale up haha.

 

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On 14/11/2023 at 9:37 PM, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

I bought mine via a reseller and took a out a month to get here.

Most of these fab, one to two man teams are pretty shit house when it comes to eComm/marketing/business efficiency, etc.

They really need someone like me to come help them scale up haha.

 

I think that's true of many people within the automotive after market. Too busy working in the business to be working on the business.

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Dose Pipe Sutututu

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If only small business owners understood business processes and were happy to pay for small business consultants I could make a living off that :D 

It seems many small businesses are too afraid to spend money on productivity tools, a good example is trying to manage their jobs on crayons and scrap piece of paper.

Imagine they just spun up a free version of Trello and projected it onto a massive (yet cheap) LED/LCD screen mounted to the shop showing a kanban and every once in a while a screen saver previewing some p0rn hub the shop would increase their productivity within days.

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funkymonkey Grand Master

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On 16/11/2023 at 9:32 AM, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

If only small business owners understood business processes and were happy to pay for small business consultants I could make a living off that :D 

It seems many small businesses are too afraid to spend money on productivity tools, a good example is trying to manage their jobs on crayons and scrap piece of paper.

Imagine they just spun up a free version of Trello and projected it onto a massive (yet cheap) LED/LCD screen mounted to the shop showing a kanban and every once in a while a screen saver previewing some p0rn hub the shop would increase their productivity within days.

So introduce Toyota Kanban system for lean manufacturing to a lean manufacturing business?

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