Mohsen Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 hey guys, have an issue with my 32 GTR car was parked up in december to do a single turbo conversion, did not touch the driveline or rear end and the car drove with no issues. finished it up in april and started getting massive shudder/ tramp in 1st gear its a nismo coppermix twin plate so should drive like stock, found the only way to avoid it is to drive it like a button clutch. goes through all the other gears fine, is only on take off. have since replaced diff fluids with the nissan recommended stuff, only thing i can think of is the suspension being compressed for a while on one side while i had the front passenger side jacked up; mightve seized something? thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Well, is it axle tramp? Is that what's happening? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator1 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Check your diff bushes. Happened to me.. heard a thud when taking off, or when shifting. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 Sorry should have been clearer, yeah it’s axle tramp, brutal axle tramp too. Entire car feels like it’s shaking apart. Prop shaft for the awd was out too so it’s definitely coming from the back Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Could be suspension....but I wouldn't put money on it. Likely to be tyres, from sitting still for months. Flat spot, gone hard, whatever. I am usually tempted to just blame the stupid R32 anti-squat geometry. I've never been able to stop my shitbox from axle tramping like a flea-bitten dog on meth. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 I managed to get my sedan to stop with a proper alignment. I’ll rotate tyres and see if anything changes, it’s so weird. Only does it when taking off normally, if I drive it like a button clutch, no issues nothing between the gears either, it’s like butter Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niZmO_Man Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Checked the tailshaft? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 I’ve checked everything, going to dive under the thing tomorrow and double check in case I missed something. if the box has to come out again, someone kick the stands lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 Alright checked the tail shaft and gearbox mounts with a pry bar, seems to be all good. starting to think it’s clutch related.. has anyone had a Nismo dual mass flywheel failure? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Only r series skyline that had a dual mass was the 34 gtr Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 Nismo copper mix comp clutch is a DM flywheel no? cars not standard. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboedsloth Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Should be a solid flywheel Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuaho96 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mohsen said: Nismo copper mix comp clutch is a DM flywheel no? cars not standard. Nope, to my knowledge only way to retain the dual mass flywheel with an aftermarket clutch is the ATS silent clutch series. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 f**k this gets even weirder then. Might just take it to a shop and let them deal with it. managed to work out everything to date but this has me stumped Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Needs more Samsonas 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboedsloth Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Has it got the factory style diff? Transfer case standard? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 Yep, standard front and rear diff again the car drove fine in December, all I’ve done was pull off the twins and fit up a single turbo set up. encountered the vibration when I pulled the car out and turned it around for the tow truck before we went to the fabricators. assumed it’s just one of the massive boost leaks pre plumbing but here we are. still shaking it’s tits off Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Swap tyres front to rear. See what happens. Try them with +5 and -5 psi also. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator1 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said: Needs more Samsonas Was waiting for this 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7979950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohsen Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 alright fellas, clutch is no good, no idea why, how or what but im just going to slap a new clutch into the dog and call it a day. local r32 guy has the exact same issue, seems to be one of the plates fusing to the pressure plate or some shit. ill post pics when i get the thing out xoxo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/484703-r32-gtr-driveline-shudder-when-taking-off-in-1st/#findComment-7980551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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