R33: (gts-t) Series 1 And 2 Differences

[MKULtra]

Cheers for that mate yeh it mustve been when smashed by previous owner its a coupe.

Another question-Can and will the series 2 dash with optional passenger airbag and steering wheel with airbag be fitted in a series 1 without too much fuss? I havnt driven the car in near a year and a half and was considering doing it up for my missus but dont want her and my daughter driving a car without airbags.

[W0rp3D]

Cheers for that mate yeh it mustve been when smashed by previous owner its a coupe.

Another question-Can and will the series 2 dash with optional passenger airbag and steering wheel with airbag be fitted in a series 1 without too much fuss? I havnt driven the car in near a year and a half and was considering doing it up for my missus but dont want her and my daughter driving a car without airbags.

I think the dash pad would fit, read a thread on here where some couldnt fit a non air bag wheel onto his car that was meant to have an airbag (he didnt know till the wheel wouldnt fit) and i think the electrics for the air bag would be a big task to sort out, not having air bags is one thing but having an air bag that goes off randomly because it isnt fitted right is pretty dangerous in its self.

[W0rp3D]

haha this is true. iv got a series 1, but am looking at replacing the steering wheel

Dont bother with a S2 wheel, your wheel is non airbag and the S2 has an airbag.

[mad082]

that is definitely a S1 front, no such thing as a S1.5 front, S1.5 is just a mix of S1 and S2 parts, from what i have seen, S1 front and engine but with S2 interior.

Not sure about the tail lights as i dont kow the difference's in 4 doors, judging by the year though i would say its a S1.

not quite true as other people have said. s1.5 are s2 engine and wing, s1 interior (with 1 or 2 small changes) and body. not sure about 4 doors though

Are you talking about the 2 door coupe there?

If you are there are infact a difference between the s1 and 1.5. 1995 came out with whats commonly called "m-spec" front bumper. Similar design yes, but its still a different front bar.

If you talking about the 4 door then im not sure...and ur probably right.

there is no m-spec front bumper for the r33. m-spec is a r34 gtr model. however there is a type-m r33 though. this is pretty much every r33 gts-t, except some of the turbo 4 doors.

Whats the difference between the S1 and S2 engines? how can u tell which is which?

as people have said, the afm, ignitor/coils, turbo compressor wheel (s1 has steel, s2 has nylon), TPS

I dont think the ECU's are interchangeable, aside from the igniter the AFM is a different part number (has a pink sticker instead of green?) as well

ecu's are interchangable. i have done it

[BundyBear]

Hi Guys

[BundyBear]

Hi Guys appolagies for above post ( i had a microsoft moment)

Just thought I'd through my 2 cents in, as I've noticed some perculiarities with my R33 gts25tm

Fairly sure its a S2, some people have told me its S2.5 is there any such thing

E-ERC33-130310 ( fast lists build date as 02/97 but my plate says 01/97 ???)

Some details hey, ill try and cover everything that varies

S2 Headlights (buld + lenz) the front of these were badly frosted when i got the car, a bit of metal polish bought them up sweet (looks heaps better now)

RED S badge on dimond mesh grille, not on bonnet, I cant see any evidence it ever was ???

metal nismo badge on boot just below key hole

Skyline panel on the back is color coded

No seatbelt thingy for the driver, thought these where std???

S2 Bar (Round Fog/Indecator) + lip spoiler

Side skirts, not sure what type

300KM nismo dash with white lights(thought white went out in S1), also NO dimer :-(> only areal sw and a lovely blank plate, down there anyway ???

no rear wiper/switch

3 child restraints (yes i have a 2yr old .... he loves dads car) outer 2 come out through speaker grill

rear strut brace above parcel shelf not in boot :-)> also through the speaker grills

anyone else with this setup who wants to change the back speakers, don't bother, it's not pretty

V-Spec sticker on boot, I thought only GTRs came in Vspec ( sticker is sporting apropriate miles, ie matches the otherone for age)???

large dump pipe with lots of heat shields

3" exhaust (more heat shields) cant remember brand of muff, will have to look lata

2 Airbags

S2 ECU , no lights

cigi lighter and ashtray have lights

high wing, not GTR type

RB25DET

5Spd

ABS

HICAS

16" rims

5 Seat capacity , stamped on both plates, nissan and import

titanium cover in boot key hole

1 coin/cup holder behind shifter

no sunroof (praise the son of rajab.... had 4 cars with em... not a fan)

MOMO Airbag wheel, height adjustable

Razo knob

wow big post!

will post photos soon(needs a wash)

any toughts/corrections apreciated

Edited November 26, 2009 by BundyBear

[W0rp3D]

Going by the year it would be a S2, never heard of a S2 2.5 and everything that is not standard just sounds like someone has added it before you owned.

[jinns]

can anyone confirm any differences netween the suspension of a series 1 and 2 ?

[W0rp3D]

can anyone confirm any differences netween the suspension of a series 1 and 2 ?

Pretty sure there isnt, gtst and gtr are different tho.

[Torques]

Hello there ..

My Skyline is made in 11/97 (according to FAST), so one of the last ones.

I have never heard of a S2.5

I have a sunroof and I LOVE IT! (and wanted it)

I have anti lock brakes as well (ABS)

Unfortunately no remote entry system ..

(I will add this myself)

Your Nismo dash might be a private after market add on I guess.

My headlights are very shiny:)

I'm the first owner after the guy who drove it in Japan.

The certified mileage is 55,000 km (judging from the interior this could actually be true)

[BundyBear]

Going by the year it would be a S2, never heard of a S2 2.5 and everything that is not standard just sounds like someone has added it before you owned.

didn't think so

Hello there ..

I have a sunroof and I LOVE IT! (and wanted it)

I have anti lock brakes as well (ABS)

Your Nismo dash might be a private after market add on I guess.

Yea I 2 loved my s/roofs till the leak(lost a 900 buck CD player once to an indoor waterfall)

Love the ABS nice and smooth

I haven't pulled the instruments out yet (had most the rest of the boot/interior apart though), but everything else seems to be factory, the car has all the little clips n stuff, nice even coats of dust on the back of things (all those littlethings that tell you if someones been there b4 or not, PS I used to to stereos and alarms 4 a crust so I've pulled a few apart), only thing ive found was and alarm and timer have been removed from under the dash at some stage. I get the feeling from the "V-spec" sticker on the back and the front badges that the jap dealership was involved. Do the bonnet badges have locator pins on them???? if so I should have evidence of holes , but I don't. curious

My main concern is the instruments, do the 300k dash normally have a dimmer or not ?? My old N13 pulsar uses the same switch, so the plan is to take the switch, the N13 Wiring diagram and wing'n it. The lights are fine with out a dimmer but I do like control. I don't like them blank plates either, makes me feel Im missing out

Did find a mitso POV under the hood yesty avo ?? It's quiet to by the way

I'll post some details when i sort this dimmer.

cheers

[eightsixboy]

Did both series have abs? I was looking at a series 2 at a car yard the other day and the salesman said it had no abs. I though that was a little odd as i thought all r33's had abs.

[Duncan]

you read this thread first right? ABS was an option in both series although it is extremely common

[mark660]

can anyone confirm any differences netween the suspension of a series 1 and 2 ?

i know the lower control arms arnt the same the s2 runs the same arms as the r34 so if you ever smash one make sure you ask for s2 ones or r34

[z0mbieJesus]

interesting thanks for the write up

[mosquitocoils]

hey all.. i just want to check.. will a series 1 front bar fit on a series 2 front?, headlights are a little different around the top and the part towards the grill (more curved).. but looks like the bar goes straight across like a series 1?.. or wont fit? thanx

Can anyone help me out and confirm this as well?

I'm looking at finding a S2 R33 front bar for my S1 but don't want to get new headlights, guards..... bonnet..... etc etc.

So does a S2 front bar simply bolt up to a S1 without further modification?

[W0rp3D]

Apparently you need the S2 reo as well, it will fit but apparently does not line up with the gaurds properly.

[BstewyR33]

Series 1 - front bar, steering wheel, with airbag, interior (velour) but with updated pattern (not quite as dark), rear badge (clear plastic and silver letters, not colour coded).

can't remember if its been mentioned, but the S1 airbag steering wheel was an optional extra, meaning "legally" can be replaced with a non airbag steering wheel.

Edited February 21, 2010 by BstewyR33

[krzysiu]

Also one thing I'm not sure of (or if it was an option) is the lockable glove box. Seen a few r33s without them but my series 2 has it

[W0rp3D]

can't remember if its been mentioned, but the S1 airbag steering wheel was an optional extra, meaning "legally" can be replaced with a non airbag steering wheel.

Are you sure, i thought S1's didnt have an airbag option and S1.5's came with drivers side standard and passenger as an option and S2 had both standard?