DOTARS Insider Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 To gain respect you must first show that you are worthy of such. "Get a Life" & "Key Board Warrior" and such incitfull words of wisdom as "tell me how long a piece of string is" really show the maturity of some forum members. Arguing the merits of the posting i can accept, after all that is the actual purpose of a forum in the 1st place but personal barbs i will not tolerate, be I be a newby or long termer. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Around the corner from me in Punch Bowl there is a certain shop (alledgedly) that curently has 2 race cars in their position that were importhed in this manner. I wasn't aware that Punchbowl NSW was around the corner from Frankston VIC your heart may be in the right place, but your methods leave us all doubting. what's th point of anonymity over such a trivial discussion. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS8_Gohan Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 wow, your "insider" info is sounding like more of an "outsider" after every post... mate, your argument has been handed back to you on a platter, in lots of tiny pieces... harden up, admit you're wrong, and let's get back to the nitty gritty like when the hell are some of these GTR's which are going to pass through melbourne, be given to Final Inspection for a detail!!! I want a close up look damn it!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewid Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 To gain respect you must first show that you are worthy of such."Get a Life" & "Key Board Warrior" and such incitfull words of wisdom as "tell me how long a piece of string is" really show the maturity of some forum members. Arguing the merits of the posting i can accept, after all that is the actual purpose of a forum in the 1st place but personal barbs i will not tolerate, be I be a newby or long termer. I'm getting the impression you work for Nissan Australia and/or you have a vested interest in disseminating FUD (that's fear, uncertainty and doubt for you) regarding the possibility/legitimacy of importing R35 GT-R's parrallell to Nissan Australia. Posting on subjects which you either have no first hand knowledge about or something you heard second hand. At the moment you come across as someone who does not know what's going on in the Australian import scene so when you attempt to tell it like it is you're officially making a fool of yourself. Your DOTARS insider has no correct information or information that is out of date. A few of the forum members who are posting in here are close to what's going on with the GT-R's in the country and you aren't... So who are you? Own up and tell us your name... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) Now lets clarify what is being posted here from a different point of view being "business in confidence" specifically statements on who is importing what R35 GTR's as this is of a concern, if you look back at older posts certain information about various business is mentioned and were the information comes from or hinted to were it is coming from is the more important thing so a quick overview of the privacy act is below. No one on a forum and going on your info a Government Employee or which ever place he gets the information from can tell/post about a vehicle of mine along the lines of when a VIA was issued, were is it going and and other statements like "The rest are pending (and as i have been told) will be pending for a loooonnnnggg time (race/rally excluded)". Commonwealth and ACT government agencies must comply with 11 Information Privacy Principles which are set out at section 14 of the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). Question: I am concerned that a Commonwealth or ACT government agency is using my personal information incorrectly. What can I do? Answer: If you believe an agency is mishandling your personal information, first of all contact the agency to express your concerns. The staff member you speak to at the agency should be able to tell you why your information was collected, how it is being used or disclosed and whether there are any relevant laws that allow the agency to use or disclose it in the manner it has. For further information on lodging a complaint with this Office, please see the How to make a complaint or Your Privacy Rights pages of our website. If you still have questions, or you would like to discuss the matter before you lodge a complaint, you can contact the Privacy Hotline on 1300 363 992 or by sending an email to [email protected].  Edited March 6, 2008 by Guest Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewid Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Commonwealth and ACT government agencies must comply with 11 Information Privacy Principles which are set out at section 14 of the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). Question: I am concerned that a Commonwealth or ACT government agency is using my personal information incorrectly. What can I do? Answer: If you believe an agency is mishandling your personal information, first of all contact the agency to express your concerns. The staff member you speak to at the agency should be able to tell you why your information was collected, how it is being used or disclosed and whether there are any relevant laws that allow the agency to use or disclose it in the manner it has. Good point. If our "DOTARS insider's" friend really did tell him that an import approval was granted for "the Donut King car" he is probably in breach of federal privacy regulations. Quite ironic considering he's blabbering about people "misusing" trade plates but at the same time spilling his guts about information that he has no business being aware of. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylwgtr2 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) Lets get a few things corrected.A car can only be imported into Australia with an appropriate VIA. From my contacts 3 VIA's have been issued for R35's. 1 x Nissan Australia (Melbourne Motor Show) 1 x Donut King 1 x NSW company (unknown name) I have been told that Nissan have special a special VIA that allows them to register the car under certain conditions. The other 2 vehicles have been imported under the Race/Rally regulations via Perth. I have also been told that if either of the non Nissan cars are used on the road (with trade plate or not) that the owner faces immediate confiscation of the car and the owner and/or driver faces very stiff (corporate level) fines. If as other forum members have noted that a car has been seen on the road, where is the Video footage and photos? In an age where every one has a phone with a camera, how come we don't have any evidence of a car in Chappel Street? Sounds like an urban myth to me. Why would you risk a 150K plus car on the road when it shouldn't be there? more to the point....get out and do your own job properly before you start to do the police's job....you guys are the biggest bunch of lazy bullshit weilding bastards i have ever come across....DOTARS burn in hell.....thanks for reading Edited March 6, 2008 by ylwgtr2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-PWR Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Man I havent heard this much bullsht from someone in a long time... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3700909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget1382 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I used to deal with DOTARS on a weekly basis. Sure it was regarding Diesel Engines for Trucks, but similar processes i imagine were in place. It took anywhere from a year to a just a few weeks to have them pass. The ones that took a year were, where legal teams were involved. Mainly because DOTARS do not like dealing with Carbon Credits. Most were passed within 1-2 months. I do not understand the laws in their entirety regarding on road testing... but believe me when i say i have driven prototypes with trade plates legitimently. These were one off's that have since had a few changes and then proceeded to production. I assume that Nissan Australia will be conducting some testing of their own (to fine tune suspension etc for our sub-standard roads) and i have also heard of more than 3 R35's getting about. Either way, it's a great looking car, it's performance is un-questionable, i'd love to see one on the street, talk to the owner and look under the hood and more to the point, i want one. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3701029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH32 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 To gain respect you must first show that you are worthy of such....Arguing the merits of the posting i can accept, after all that is the actual purpose of a forum in the 1st place but personal barbs i will not tolerate, be I be a newby or long termer. In your few postings on this forum (under this guise?) you have not exactly conducted yourself in the manner that would command respect either. The 'personal barbs' have clearly arisen out of frustration experienced by forum members in response to the arrogance displayed by you in relation to the specialist and enthusiast importation regulations, and your apparent lack of knowledge thereof. Kindly do not post misleading and inaccurate information without doing thorough research first .... from a credible source. It's not a debate as you say, it is just the constant rebuttle of your ridiculous comments. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3701113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS8_Gohan Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 more to the point....get out and do your own job properly before you start to do the police's job....you guys are the biggest bunch of lazy bullshit weilding bastards i have ever come across....DOTARS burn in hell.....thanks for reading ahahahhha, i too remember dealing with DOTARS..... +1 to the comment above :laughing-smiley-014: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3701120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 more to the point....get out and do your own job properly before you start to do the police's job....you guys are the biggest bunch of lazy bullshit weilding bastards i have ever come across....DOTARS burn in hell.....thanks for reading Well said. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3701180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 lol trust Troy to say it like it is. Altho Sue at DOTARS in the RAWS team is really nice... always a pleasure to deal with. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3701708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Red Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I still fail to see what "DOTARS Insider" has brought to the table apart from some half formed, ill conceived snippets of information that anyone with half an ear to the ground would know of anyway. If he wants to garner some respect or credibility he needs to ask his supposed insider mates for something juicy. Even then he's still that far behind the 8 ball that its barely worth the effort. Its not school holidays in the East already is it? Jash Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3701921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 ahh c'mon you guys are mean. I want to learn more from inside DOTARS. What is going on? What is the coffee like? Is it true all of your funding comes from Toyota to make sure they don't have to compete with their own products and to support otherwise unprofitable local manufacturers? Why does it take more than an hour to process a 5 page import approval form? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3703594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Oh, and my favourite, do you guys really beleive a 15 year old skyline is more dangerous than a 15yo commodore? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3703602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylwgtr2 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 ahh c'mon you guys are mean. I want to learn more from inside DOTARS. What is going on? What is the coffee like? Is it true all of your funding comes from Toyota to make sure they don't have to compete with their own products and to support otherwise unprofitable local manufacturers? Why does it take more than an hour to process a 5 page import approval form? you mean why does it take one month???? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3703839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 you mean why does it take one month???? they're still processing December approvals atm last I heard. there's only 3 or 4 people who deal with the approval forms... can get a lil overwhelming. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3705610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSJayce Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Oh, and my favourite, do you guys really beleive a 15 year old skyline is more dangerous than a 15yo commodore? :laughing-smiley-014: ! How true!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3705752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Dotars Insider. I don't like you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/205814-r35-gtr-in-melbourne/page/5/#findComment-3705817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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