Tarmac Rallying Perpetual Thread

[SimonR32]

Oh dear...

Not kidding... I bash the hell out of a RB26 making 700rwhp on a stock bottom end and it takes everything I can throw at it.

Make 300awhp in an 4G63 and it throws 2 legs out of bed at 3600rpm in 4th gear on a warm up lap

Edited October 23, 2013 by SimonR32

[No Crust Racing]

There's obviously more to it than that lol, you don't punch a hole in the block at that power and rpm if everything has been done properly.

I'm no Evo over but by most accounts the 4G is a good bit of gear.

[Roy]

Meh...Mitsubishi have not built a good car since the GSR Sigma

[No Crust Racing]

My post should have said Evo "lover" not over woops.

Yeah anyway, just saying. That sort of failure is probably less to do the strength of the factory bottom end and more to do with something like a failed oil pump or something like that (if the engine has not been previously abused).

[paulR32gtr]

Yeah sure we all know you love to "over" Evo's Dan. But yes our little 4G63 at stock specs as it left Mitsa keeps trucking along, daily driver, track days, motorkhana's, recce car. Not my cup of tea but can't complain with that sort of reliability.

Formidable early modern car for high country, particularly shines on day two through the tight and twisty stages around lake eildon.

Meh...Mitsubishi have not built a good car since the GSR Sigma

Don't forget the scorpion/lambda... what a good lookin car that was, and the name, oh the name...

[SimonR32]

There's obviously more to it than that lol, you don't punch a hole in the block at that power and rpm if everything has been done properly.

I'm no Evo over but by most accounts the 4G is a good bit of gear.

Nothing more unfortunately. just hit max boost and max torque at 1.4bar and bent 2 rods

Apparently EVO VIIs are known for their weak rods so if you do a bit of searching it's not the only one that has let go at low rpm under load

Edited October 24, 2013 by SimonR32

[No Crust Racing]

So the real issue is pushing beyond the limits then?

I knew CAs were prone to do head gaskets around the 200kw mark, so was not susprised when exactly that happened.

At least you know where the weak spot is so you can fix it right

Not having a go or anything, just dont pointing out that it can be a bit rough to say something is weak if you know what the limits are and you've pushed up to or beyond it.

Everything has limits of course.

I hope it's a relatively quick and as cheap a fix as it can be! Not a fun job.

[paulR32gtr]

Nothing more unfortunately. just hit max boost and max torque at 1.4bar and bent 2 rods

Apparently EVO VIIs are known for their weak rods so if you do a bit of searching it's not the only one that has let go at low rpm under load

You guys running E85 for the event or just 98?

[SimonR32]

So the real issue is pushing beyond the limits then?

I knew CAs were prone to do head gaskets around the 200kw mark, so was not susprised when exactly that happened.

At least you know where the weak spot is so you can fix it right

Not having a go or anything, just dont pointing out that it can be a bit rough to say something is weak if you know what the limits are and you've pushed up to or beyond it.

Everything has limits of course.

I hope it's a relatively quick and as cheap a fix as it can be! Not a fun job.

To be honest it was a surprise to us, we didn't know they were that weak. Only found out after doing research after That motor is in the bin and new one is already in the hole and running so all is well.

You guys running E85 for the event or just 98?

Yeah E85 but backing it right back to 1bar now because we don't want to head across the country just to lunch another motor... How about you?

Edited October 24, 2013 by SimonR32

[No Crust Racing]

Good news, back on track quickly is the best way to be. Or you could just not have done any track events for well over 18mths like me...

[paulR32gtr]

Yeah E85 but backing it right back to 1bar now because we don't want to head across the country just to lunch another motor... How about you?

Still on 98, little bit behind the times! Had some teething issues getting the car reliable due to some silly things like one of the turbos lunching bearings every few hundred kms, wiring faults, faulty radiator caps - the list goes on. Just need to get out and enjoy the car & event, then look at speeding things up for Tassie.

[DJRIFT]

Ill be in a gt3 rs for this one. 2nd run in this car. Best thing is we can park it and walk away every nite

[Bazil_1]

See you all on the Friday afternoon at Mansfield! Really looking forward to this one. Have spent quite some time setting up the suspension since tt so am looking forward to testing the car out on roads I (should) know fairly well by now.

[SimonR32]

All stickered up, getting close now!

[paulR32gtr]

Looking the goods! I have definitely switched into rally mode this week, sleep not coming as easily, looking forward to it just a tad...

[Nee-san]

Not kidding... I bash the hell out of a RB26 making 700rwhp on a stock bottom end and it takes everything I can throw at it.

Make 300awhp in an 4G63 and it throws 2 legs out of bed at 3600rpm in 4th gear on a warm up lap

Correct, the rods look like some of the pipe cleaner dolls they used to make on playschool.

Edited November 1, 2013 by Nee-san

[SimonR32]

Soooo... Apparently it's snowing today in Mount Buller and raining next weekend.

EEEK

[paulR32gtr]

Not again... it was freakishly cold last year.

If you have support crew with diesel vehicles without a fuel heater, make sure you get alpine mix. Heap of crews got caught out last year with frozen diesel unable to start them up and get off the mountain before the road closed.

[Roy]

All stickered up, getting close now!

That car is AWESOME simply because it is runnign WEDS

[Bazil_1]

The field in High Country seems to have grown again. Will be interesting to see if they can extend the event in future years.

Day one was the first time it had rained on THC and seemed to test out a few teams. The coarse tarmac on most roads seemed to hold quite a bit of grip even after the rain hit. Mount Buller tested out most cars on Saturday with what seemed like 4 seasons in one stage. The first 2/3 of the hill was fast in the dry however was crazily slippery once in the rain through the middle and the snow/sleet up top.

Our new Haltech tripped a fuel pressure warning twice sending the car into limp mode after the second right hand hairpin meaning I had to hit the battery isolation whilst on a straight and restart the car to finish the stage. When it started again the car was still rolling forward which killed 4wd, A-LSD and ABS until I came to a complete stop, something I forgot until after the stage!

The rain eased up overnight though the cold weather stayed around at the top of the mountain. Our oil was down to 0°c while the water was at 4°c even after 2 hours in the sun before we cranked the engine over. Quite a few service cars were stuck at the top of the mountain especially the diesels, not helped by the fact the local servos stopped supplying alpine mix a few weeks before the event. The dry roads on day two were dry which gave us more confidence to push a little faster.

Second run up Buller was a lot cleaner with a 10:20, 26 seconds faster than the year before. Video of the run through the link for anyone who wants to watch;

https://vimeo.com/79191367

Now time for a retune then some new wheels before next year. Short list for wheels is down to; Volk RE30 or CE28, Weds or (the affordable option) RPF01. Any recommendations?