PN-Mad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 so the s2 rwd stageas can be converted with a v35 6 speed geabox conversion kit from the post stated a few posts above ? No body has done it, but it seems pretty straight forward. Need the interior bits and pieces, pedals, and hydraulics too. Then figure out if the ecu needs any auto gearbox inputs. Give it a go I say Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7155987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambruv Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) No body has done it, but it seems pretty straight forward. Need the interior bits and pieces, pedals, and hydraulics too. Then figure out if the ecu needs any auto gearbox inputs. Give it a go I say well if my mates can fit a 260 boss engine into their r33 drift car, i cant see how they couldn't do this! waiting on advanced jap auto imports to give me a price. Edited December 29, 2013 by adambruv Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7156066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshm35 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 well if my mates can fit a 260 boss engine into their r33 drift car, i cant see how they couldn't do this! waiting on advanced jap auto imports to give me a price. Anything is possible depending on your determination and funding. Been proven as dcdc is building a manual m35 with a r34gtr gearbox. Scotty was looking at a 350z 6 speed a while ago and I think the issue was the tunnel fitment when can be massaged to make fit. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7156174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daleo Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 well if my mates can fit a 260 boss engine into their r33 drift car, i cant see how they couldn't do this! waiting on advanced jap auto imports to give me a price. Getting the mechanicals in place will be the easiest part of an NM35 manual AWD conversion. Getting all the ECU's to play nice with one another, will be the trick with this one. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7156277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaitonaito Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 There was a manual V35 coupe on ebay with a 3k asking price. had rear drivers corner damage other than that it was fine. would have been perfect for a manual stagea swap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7156389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I was seriously eyeing it off too Mark, but no funds. They are all tied up in the gleaming new Autech sitting in my driveway. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7156606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedone Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I figure that this:http://g35driver.com/forums/drivetrain/345132-diy-5at-6mt-swap.htmlIs basically the go for a RWD stagea? 3.0DD if that makes any difference. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7238820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Possibly, but you will find many differences between the two engines... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7238840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedone Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yeah I thought so.How much difference do you think it will make in the final product? Apart from the ECU, are the bolt patterns the same? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7238870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The starter motor is on the other side I am fairly sure, you would have to compare the two to see if the 3.5 sump might be able to be used? Running the manual V35 3.5L engine, ecu's, bcm, relay box etc and wiring loom would be a must I think, and a great can of worms. Hopefully the chassis is similar enough, otherwise nothing might fit. The AWD stagea chassis is completely different to the V35 chassis... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzguzzi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The Stagea 350s came in a 6 speed manual, it was an Autech version. I reckon if you could get that in your VQ25DET it would be sweet....if you can get it in.......if it is suitable....if it was cheap enough ...so many if's Jules Yes, I watched one of the Autech 6 speeds at Japanese auction house with 70,000k's sell for $12,000 nzd. 3 times more than standard M35 and auto Axis models. They only come in a 2.5L engine I thought with the 6 speed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedone Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The starter motor is on the other side I am fairly sure, you would have to compare the two to see if the 3.5 sump might be able to be used? Running the manual V35 3.5L engine, ecu's, bcm, relay box etc and wiring loom would be a must I think, and a great can of worms. Hopefully the chassis is similar enough, otherwise nothing might fit. The AWD stagea chassis is completely different to the V35 chassis... So the best bet is actually a complete engine swap including the transmission, starter, sump etc to a 3.5, rather than keeping the 3.0DD in there Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The easiest is a whole car swap. What about a cable throttle VQ30det swap? At least you can Nistune the earlier engines. And it has already been done in NZ with a 6 speed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedone Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Yeah thats true. Yeah the guy over here did his with a toyota box IIRC. Same as the ones in supras etc. Think the 30det was out of a Cedric or Gloria.Looks like the best way to go really, although I would like to keep a nissan box in there, I'm kind of strange like that. A car swap is the way to go, but I like my car. The blue with the aero kit is hard to come by over here in NZ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzguzzi Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nz engineers report, certification, teething problems etc. I've always driven manuals, current work vehicle is a 6 speed, totally over it. Can't wait for the auto wagon to arrive. Gone for me are the days of spending thousands of dollars to modify some shit box I purchased, only to sell it later and lose money. Save the cash, buy the vehicle you really want that doesn't require a gas axe, maybe get a few bolt ons. The vehicle will have a good resale value cause it has not been modified. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedone Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nz engineers report, certification, teething problems etc. I've always driven manuals, current work vehicle is a 6 speed, totally over it. Can't wait for the auto wagon to arrive. Gone for me are the days of spending thousands of dollars to modify some shit box I purchased, only to sell it later and lose money. Save the cash, buy the vehicle you really want that doesn't require a gas axe, maybe get a few bolt ons. The vehicle will have a good resale value cause it has not been modified. I can get all that, half my family is in that business. I've only had manuals up until now, I'm not 100% sure whether I'd be over the auto if I got it done, but I think it would add something to the car. However, I completely see where you are coming from, and I agree with the good resale value. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M35woah Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nz engineers report, certification, teething problems etc. I've always driven manuals, current work vehicle is a 6 speed, totally over it. Can't wait for the auto wagon to arrive. Gone for me are the days of spending thousands of dollars to modify some shit box I purchased, only to sell it later and lose money. Save the cash, buy the vehicle you really want that doesn't require a gas axe, maybe get a few bolt ons. The vehicle will have a good resale value cause it has not been modified. Couple of things I don't agree with. If you're ganna get cut about the resale of yo modified car doesn't that defeat the whole modifying purpose in the first place? When I buy shit for the car I don't think "fu*k, this is going to fu*k my resale value to all fu*k and beyond." I also don't agree with the "good resale" part... Good resale to me is a profit, property normally has good resale not cars. I modify my car for personal gain, as in learning something and my own limits of what I can do. To me my car brings value to me in terms of enjoyment, I enjoy seeing it become something else that I've done or achieved with the car. 4 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Couple of things I don't agree with. If you're ganna get cut about the resale of yo modified car doesn't that defeat the whole modifying purpose in the first place? When I buy shit for the car I don't think "fu*k, this is going to fu*k my resale value to all fu*k and beyond." I also don't agree with the "good resale" part... Good resale to me is a profit, property normally has good resale not cars. I modify my car for personal gain, as in learning something and my own limits of what I can do. To me my car brings value to me in terms of enjoyment, I enjoy seeing it become something else that I've done or achieved with the car. agree whole heartedly. plus they way i look at it the only better wagon in the world is an Audi RS6 which is damn expensive so spending a few grand to make it compare with an RS6 is worth it as i still saved nearly $200K 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzguzzi Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Couple of things I don't agree with. If you're ganna get cut about the resale of yo modified car doesn't that defeat the whole modifying purpose in the first place? When I buy shit for the car I don't think "fu*k, this is going to fu*k my resale value to all fu*k and beyond." I also don't agree with the "good resale" part... Good resale to me is a profit, property normally has good resale not cars. I modify my car for personal gain, as in learning something and my own limits of what I can do. To me my car brings value to me in terms of enjoyment, I enjoy seeing it become something else that I've done or achieved with the car. I only ever start thinking about the " oh fu€k " when I go to resell, end up losing money and wish I had more money to spend on my next vehicle. Lack of funds = missed opportunity. Good resale is not losing crap loads of money, you don't need to make a profit. If I broke even at a point of sale, then I was happy. Most of the time with modified vehicles, I ended up spending lots of money, investing lots of time, stuck with a highly modified old car by the time I got bored with it. People were reluctant to buy because they don't know what kind of "can of worms" it was and for the same asking price, could purchase a newer more modern car that had superior design and engine qualities stock standard. I guess I just got tired of always being broke. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7239820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daleo Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 agree whole heartedly. plus they way i look at it the only better wagon in the world is an Audi RS6 which is damn expensive so spending a few grand to make it compare with an RS6 is worth it as i still saved nearly $200K Yeah, that's until VW release the Golf R wagon... http://www.motoring.com.au/news/small-passenger/volkswagen/golf/spy-pics-volkswagen-golf-r-estate-42493?utm_content=bufferabd6c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/252088-m35-manual-conversion/page/10/#findComment-7240113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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