Hypergear Turbochargers and High flow Services Development thread

[Hanaldo]

Except I'm not getting close to anything that can really be considered high speeds.

[methz]

low mount or high mount hasn't got that much 2 do with it... ive seen multiple low mount setups run into the 115-120mph with 280-300kw.. its normal..

[GTScotT]

Have seen stock turbo evo's do 120mph, that's a TD05H 16G.

Stao you really need to get your car out to the track with an SS2 or G3 attached. It's the only solution.

[hypergear]

low mount or high mount hasn't got that much 2 do with it... ive seen multiple low mount setups run into the 115-120mph with 280-300kw.. its normal..

A proper aftermarket manifold with ext gate vs factory manifold. On paper the torque and power curve is very different after 5500RPMs and when driving it my current setup pulls very hard till red while it doesn't on stock. One the other hand tyres , wheels, driver skills and etc all takes effects so there are a lot variances.

Well we are not comparing to other make of cars. Trying to get my car to the drags. Not sure whats happening to calder park this days. Seems they are no longer opening for weekend drags and I've been trying to ring them for 2 weeks and no one's attending phone calls either.

[LANDSCRIBBLE]

What about some incar videos of a few gear changes on a "privately owned road"

[GTSBoy]

http://performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67287256-calder-park-going

Not sure whats happening to calder park this days. Seems they are no longer opening for weekend drags and I've been trying to ring them for 2 weeks and no one's attending phone calls either.

[Hanaldo]

A proper aftermarket manifold with ext gate vs factory manifold. On paper the torque and power curve is very different after 5500RPMs and when driving it my current setup pulls very hard till red while it doesn't on stock. One the other hand tyres , wheels, driver skills and etc all takes effects so there are a lot variances.

Well we are not comparing to other make of cars. Trying to get my car to the drags. Not sure whats happening to calder park this days. Seems they are no longer opening for weekend drags and I've been trying to ring them for 2 weeks and no one's attending phone calls either.

All of those variables affect the end time, not really the trap speed. End of the day, my best speeds are close to that of a stock R34. The stock manifold isn't my problem. Cam timing could well be. I also think I may have been getting some slight misfire last night, I'll look into that.

[hypergear]

http://performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67287256-calder-park-going

Dame. Thats the closest one to the city. Where does majority of Melbourne people go for drags now?

[Count Grantleyish]

Dame. Thats the closest one to the city. Where does majority of Melbourne people go for drags now?

http://www.heathcoteraceway.com.au/home.shtml

[jet_r31]

low mount or high mount hasn't got that much 2 do with it... ive seen multiple low mount setups run into the 115-120mph with 280-300kw.. its normal..

thats what i thought, till i read this thread

cheers

darren

[GTScotT]

All we need is one person to do 300kw and trap 120 with a G3 and we can make a call on this situation.

Just one result I reckon.

I'm not expecting my car to let me down. at present it has an ARP bolt snapped in the crank though, so my planned drag trip is a little delayed.

[jet_r31]

Of to heafgoat Stao..lol

cheers

darren

[LANDSCRIBBLE]

low mount or high mount hasn't got that much 2 do with it... ive seen multiple low mount setups run into the 115-120mph with 280-300kw.. its normal..

what sort of cars/motors?

[hypergear]

All of those variables affect the end time, not really the trap speed. End of the day, my best speeds are close to that of a stock R34. The stock manifold isn't my problem. Cam timing could well be. I also think I may have been getting some slight misfire last night, I'll look into that.

Stock manifold was 57kws behind a my current high mount setup using running the same turbocharger. It will be good if you can come for test drive with my car during your next visit in Melbourne.

If top end power and torque has nothing to do with trap speed while only decrease end time, then is there a actual connection between trap speed to the turbocharger. Or is it more gear ratio related? as in it is limited to what ever it might be on 5th gear at 7000RPMs.

[copycutter]

Just got my car retuned today. So happy with the results!!

Made 38kw more with 1psi less. Then went further and the clutch started slipping *rolls eyes*

Now saving for new clutch...

[jet_r31]

Stock manifold was 57kws behind a my current high mount setup using running the same turbocharger. It will be good if you can come for test drive with my car during your next visit in Melbourne.

If top end power and torque has nothing to do with trap speed while only decrease end time, then is there a actual connection between trap speed to the turbocharger. Or is it more gear ratio related? as in it is limited to what ever it might be on 5th gear at 7000RPMs.

It does but if you made 300rwkw youd be around 118-120mph ish and if you made 370-380rwkw you'd be at 128 mph ish

so high mount/low mount/mounted on a donkey, it doesn't matter.

Area under the curve power wise changes mph, as does response after gear change ...only on manuals though really , autos "slip" through it

Small turbos sometime run similiar/same mph traps to mid track, then fall over from the next half compared to the bigger one

[Roy]

What rpm is the rev limit set at? Stopping the party at 7k seems a bit conservative

[copycutter]

Ain't the stock limiter 7250?

[jet_r31]

power looks solid copycutter, what does Shaun think of it?

cheers

darren

[GTScotT]

Nice result Nick, now change your clutch and off to the drags

Stao the cars have the ability to hit 220-240km, regardless of model and gear ratio options (of the usual diff and gearbox combos available). The speed at the end of the drag strip is mostly down to weight and power. You can generally calculate what MPH should be reached by knowing those two.

What I need to see if a stock manifold IWG G3 with claimed 300kw hit 120MPH (200km) down the strip. Then I will be comfortable to say the cars with low trap speeds must have issues.

If we arent able to prove a G3 capable of 120MPH the first thing I would debunk is the FNT. Run with and without to see if there is a difference.

Seeing as you have already taken your existing turbo technology to its peak, and are getting good numbers with good response, I would say doing back to back drag runs would be your next point of call. Have a little fun while truly proving the product.

I myself am a full believer and own an SS1PU for anyone interested, I am just wanting the proof to back up my beliefs.