cameron Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 i would agree on the fact that p-platers carnt drive GTRs, but what about gtst's ? you know its not always the young drives who have accidents. eg: brissy crash with the 30+year old male who was wraped his skyline around a tree/pole ? (no-disrespect) their should be some sort of law on p-platers. maby take them all through a extream driving course and if you pass then you can buy your high powered car ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PranK Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 i know what you mean dude ive droven a gtr for 7,000km's . not much but allot for most gtr's in not even half a year of ownership. i've done 35,000k's in 9 months in mine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 My GTR will hit 110+ in 2nd gear. Cameron - I know what you are saying, I have lost 1 point in my years of driving and have never had an accident, but that being said, i wouldn't have minded some sort of car restriction (probably because i couldn't afford much more than my VC commodore! ) for the first few years. Christian not having a go at any of use but lets say that use were 18 and you had the money to buy a gtr but their were laws on it that you weret aloud intill you were on your opens. whould you be saying fair anough or would you be gettings quite anoyed ? This thread is really good glad it happened and not one was hurt. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 i've done 35,000k's in 9 months in mine. Yes but we all know you get around Pranky Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 not having a go at any of use but lets say that use were 18 and you had the money to buy a gtr but their were laws on it that you weret aloud intill you were on your opens. whould you be saying fair anough or would you be gettings quite anoyed ? This thread is really good glad it happened and not one was hurt. Cameron, the sad truth is that despite how desirable the GTR/skyline is to an 18 year old, the majority of those that own them on p plates etc lack the experience and ability to get themselves out of trouble if a situation arises. The power limits would exist as a safety measure - you cant really gripe about that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PranK Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Yes but we all know you get around Pranky hmmm... i have no response to that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Cameron, the sad truth is that despite how desirable the GTR/skyline is to an 18 year old, the majority of those that own them on p plates etc lack the experience and ability to get themselves out of trouble if a situation arises. The power limits would exist as a safety measure - you cant really gripe about that. That still didnt answer my question. :wassup: hehe i meant that if you were still 18 or how ever old and wanted a skyline but their was laws that say you were aloud intill you had your open licence ? what would you do at this point ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammus Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 ^^^ obey the law or run the risk of cops taking your licence away Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INASNT Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I wish the RTA would just ban all turbo and high performance cars for P-Platers.It would solve alot of problems IMO. I recon p platers should all have to drive 800cc 3 cyclinder cars from taiwan. hahaha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver-Arrowz Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Don't take this the wrong way but perhaps you should buy your next car without your folks help. That way you treat it like king. I know I treat mine like king. It's easy to take things for granted when it's given to you. And the next time you get the urge to do something silly, you will remember this incident and also that it's your money it's going to be paying for the damages. Think about the possabilites and the consequences before you act. This is what's lacking in younger drivers. Last thing you want is to take out some innocent by stander or passanger. You don't want to live with that on your mind for the rest of your life. Think about how your death will affect the people around you. I don't mean in here since it seems that there are people who are upset at you, but more so your folks. You don't want to see them morn over your death now? PS. A blast around the track is ten times more fun than anywhere on the road. Period! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ984 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I recon p platers should all have to drive 800cc 3 cyclinder cars from taiwan. hahaha Hey that's a bit unfair.... I'm on my greens (19) and have an R32 GTS-t which is my pride and joy.... (ie i don't go thrashing it around)... yes i give it a good squirt everynow and then (as we all do!) but i don't think just cause i'm young i should be banned from having a nice car... I appreciate my car for what it is. (A SKYLINE!) I appreciate the look, the feel and yes, the power... but that doesn't mean i abuse it.... Maybee an exam to drive cars over a certain limit... or set exams for set limits (and even pre-requisits eg driver training etc...) but not total banning.... Just my 2c... Don't label us all the same because of a few unappreciative d***heads... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I think germany have P's for 5 or was it 7 years? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hey that's a bit unfair....I'm on my greens (19) and have an R32 GTS-t which is my pride and joy.... (ie i don't go thrashing it around)... yes i give it a good squirt everynow and then (as we all do!) but i don't think just cause i'm young i should be banned from having a nice car... I appreciate my car for what it is. (A SKYLINE!) I appreciate the look, the feel and yes, the power... but that doesn't mean i abuse it.... Maybee an exam to drive cars over a certain limit... or set exams for set limits (and even pre-requisits eg driver training etc...) but not total banning.... Just my 2c... Don't label us all the same because of a few unappreciative d***heads... Agree well said Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INASNT Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Don't label us all the same because of a few unappreciative d***heads... The insurance companies label us all like that after idiots write off their cars Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 This is a good thread for its backs and forwards and different perspectives. Also seems to be gradually migrating into interestingly "under 25" vs "over 25", which is ironic in a way. I remember when I was on my p's i was like many of the attitudes expressed "i am a good driver, i can drive a fast car if i want to".. but now it seems those who are older DO realise that experience does help, and everybody having their near misses over the years realises that sometimes having more power on tap never helps the situations. i meant that if you were still 18 or how ever old and wanted a skyline but their was laws that say you were aloud intill you had your open licence ? what would you do at this point ? I would be pissed off about it, bitch and winge.. but in the end wouldn't have a choice now would I?, and that would be the end of it. I'd just have to wait until I reached that magical age or whatever. Patience sometimes breeds responsibility, in more ways than just the obvious. i would agree on the fact that p-platers carnt drive GTRs, but what about gtst's ? Little difference, and everybody knows you can almost double the power of a gts-t without spending too much.. their should be some sort of law on p-platers. maby take them all through a extream driving course and if you pass then you can buy your high powered car ? If they are doing that, there should be a blanket ban "No p plater is allowed to drive these cars: x, x,x, x, x, x". Its not hard to enforce at all, you drive a powerful car and the cops catch you, you get fined. I mean unofficially its been that way for years in Victoria, it just has gradually "reverted" in this era of turbo charged cars. I remember when i first started driving, there were cars that i could simply *not* register and drive.. such a 308 commodore, 250 Cortina. I mean they're nothing now, but back then they were what a fast skyline is today and desireable. Lots of people wanted them, but not many could afford them, or wanted to get pulled over. It was a known fact, and not many people got around, people just did without. I mean, f*ck is it THAT hard to drive a slower car for 3 years?? does a p-plater HAVE to have a really fast car for the first few years of driving? i mean think of the money you save for a start! You need *something* to look forward to after drving for a few years.. i think its a worthy goal to try and encourage drivers to remain accident (and to an extend penalty) free I don't know why the restrictions have been relaxed, but they clearly have. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 The insurance companies label us all like that after idiots write off their cars And its not just the insurance companies, but even worse, the cops, government, even our own families sometimes! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doxximus Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 yeah my dad was actually hesitant about me getting a turbo because of stories he has heard, even though he taught me to drive from 12years old Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Experience is great, but i still believe its the attitude that counts. And when ppl refer to driving ed and defensive driving course (Defensive comes before Advanced Driving Courses) they focus more on attitude with only part of the day spend behind the wheel. Has anyone had a scare when driving normally??? Now that wakes you up to how things that can change in an instant! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Tits Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 stay on topic please! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adznight Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Experience is great, but i still believe its the attitude that counts.And when ppl refer to driving ed and defensive driving course (Defensive comes before Advanced Driving Courses) they focus more on attitude with only part of the day spend behind the wheel. Has anyone had a scare when driving normally??? Now that wakes you up to how things that can change in an instant! Hell yeah, exactly what happened to me, 50 in a 60 zone round a long corner in the wet, back end out over oil and water and onto the grass. hello tree. No one is safe. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/32289-i-smashed-my-gtr-real-bad/page/14/#findComment-649747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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