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whatsisname
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Polished up pretty good if I do say so myself [emoji4]

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Who gives a toss how it looks if it meets the performace criteria. I hope they wax garretts arse to the point where garrett actually starts doing some real r&d and giving customers something bette

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The GTX3584RS will support roughly 850-880HP on a 3.0L (maximum rpm of ~7500-8000) at a PR of about 3.1-3.3 No chance of getting 1000HP out of it, not unless it can be done at a PR of 2.75 and even th

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Here's hoping it comes back a monster!

Perhaps a definitive answer on AVO's business ethics while were at it. We can see if they really were just too lazy to do better for the customer.

Maybe AVO just dont know how to get the car to come on boost sooner? Maybe there is an issue with the car? There may be something causing a restriction or an inferior/failing part. (thats not having a go at the car or the owner or AVO, its just a general comment)

A second opinion is always good if your not happy with the work done on the car but i wouldnt be to hard on AVO just yet.....

I know my car has recently been switched to E85 and the dyno figure actually went backwards.... am i disapointed, not just yet. We lost 20kwatw's, but the car was a lot harder to keep on the dyno this time around. One of the most reliable ways to tell whether it has gone forwards or not is to run it down the quarter. As long as my car runs quicker than 133mph i will be happy with the loss of power. If it doesnt i will quiz Yavuz as to what may be the cause. It made good power on pump, but maybe the setup isnt right for E85 and i may need to change something to suit it....

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joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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Maybe AVO just dont know how to get the car to come on boost sooner? Maybe there is an issue with the car? There may be something causing a restriction or an inferior/failing part. (thats not having a go at the car or the owner or AVO, its just a general comment)

A second opinion is always good if your not happy with the work done on the car but i wouldnt be to hard on AVO just yet.....

I know my car has recently been switched to E85 and the dyno figure actually went backwards.... am i disapointed, not just yet. We lost 20kwatw's, but the car was a lot harder to keep on the dyno this time around. One of the most reliable ways to tell whether it has gone forwards or not is to run it down the quarter. As long as my car runs quicker than 133mph i will be happy with the loss of power. If it doesnt i will quiz Yavuz as to what may be the cause. It made good power on pump, but maybe the setup isnt right for E85 and i may need to change something to suit it....

just throw it on a hub dyno

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Maybe AVO just dont know how to get the car to come on boost sooner? Maybe there is an issue with the car? There may be something causing a restriction or an inferior/failing part. (thats not having a go at the car or the owner or AVO, its just a general comment)

My point exactly. The owner has commented that they said they could try adjust the cam gears but this is the best they could do. The owner has queried the issue and soon we will see if it was a lack of commitment to the job that let him down. Short of not knowing how, all the above mentioned issues are something the shop should have tried to track down for the customer, not knowing how is something they should omit to the customer if it is the case.

I'd hold back any comment on AVO until its actually run on the familiar dyno, it could easily come down to ramp rates.

Agreed, yet I am not slagging them. I am merely saying we will see if it was a lack of commitment or not. So, we will see.

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^ that should be epic, there is a guy in Europe on the way to his tuner with his R33 GTS25t running a FullRace twin scroll GTX3582R as we speak, that'll be interesting to see the result of too.

Whats the rest of the setup? Are you going to be able to lean on it a bit?

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^ that should be epic, there is a guy in Europe on the way to his tuner with his R33 GTS25t running a FullRace twin scroll GTX3582R as we speak, that'll be interesting to see the result of too.

Whats the rest of the setup? Are you going to be able to lean on it a bit?

yeah leaning on it shouldnt be a problem running;

cp 9.0:1 pistons

nitto rods

dry sump set up

full balanced engine from harmonic balancer to clutch pressure plate

jim berry clutch

ported head

tomei springs

drop in cams

its in a silvia to and going to be on E85 cant wait been building it for 4 YEARS!:merli:

the pic is with the normal GT35 turbo that i sold

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I am looking forward to seeing this set up working at its potential.

Trent isn't tuning. Just dyno running and diagnosing the lazy curve.

I'd hold back any comment on AVO until its actually run on the familiar dyno, it could easily come down to ramp rates.

Exactly. They have done right by me thus far. And their work has been very good.

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BMYHOE

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Oh hell yeah. This thing is going to be insane, hope you have a large fuel system and a dose of crazy!

yeah twin 044's surge tank dash 8 fuel lines and id2000 injectors

ill be happy with 360 - 380kws

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Are you picking it up today?

Yeh tonight. Interesting to see what he says.

My point exactly. The owner has commented that they said they could try adjust the cam gears but this is the best they could do. The owner has queried the issue and soon we will see if it was a lack of commitment to the job that let him down. Short of not knowing how, all the above mentioned issues are something the shop should have tried to track down for the customer, not knowing how is something they should omit to the customer if it is the case.

Agreed, yet I am not slagging them. I am merely saying we will see if it was a lack of commitment or not. So, we will see.

All very valid unbiased thoughts. Hopefully I will get my answer :)

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I'm assuming ur referring to the 3582 lol

Yep, I tried to edit my post to clarify that when I discovered people had responded while I was typing that out and my interwebs got its glitch on and wouldn't let me.

yeah twin 044's surge tank dash 8 fuel lines and id2000 injectors

ill be happy with 360 - 380kws

If you aren't going to be shy on boost then I'd be surprised if you didn't blow that figure out of the water - even on a harsh dyno. Who is tuning it/what kind of dyno is going to be used? On E85 and a bunch of boost I'm expecting there is a good chance it'll make quite eye opening power, and bring it on quite quickly :) Will be particularly interested in seeing when it cracks 200kw...

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yeah leaning on it shouldnt be a problem running;

cp 9.0:1 pistons

nitto rods

dry sump set up

full balanced engine from harmonic balancer to clutch pressure plate

jim berry clutch

ported head

tomei springs

drop in cams

its in a silvia to and going to be on E85 cant wait been building it for 4 YEARS!:merli:

the pic is with the normal GT35 turbo that i sold

thats insane :thumbsup:

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BMYHOE

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yeah its a RB30, 26 head forgot to mention that - thought we were in the RB30 section :P

Yep, I tried to edit my post to clarify that when I discovered people had responded while I was typing that out and my interwebs got its glitch on and wouldn't let me.

If you aren't going to be shy on boost then I'd be surprised if you didn't blow that figure out of the water - even on a harsh dyno. Who is tuning it/what kind of dyno is going to be used? On E85 and a bunch of boost I'm expecting there is a good chance it'll make quite eye opening power, and bring it on quite quickly :) Will be particularly interested in seeing when it cracks 200kw...

im will be talking to a few tuners im in sydney so it will be out of JEM/Powertune/unigroup still probly 4-5months off from any dyno time

quick question guys would a 3 1/2 inch dump to 4inch cat back be over kill for my set up? OR should i just stick to 3 1/2 inch the whole way?

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