Kando Dynamics Turbo

[1400r]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kinugawa-Billet-Turbocharger-Bolt-On-3-Anti-Surge-RB20-RB25DET-TD06H-20G-10cm-/271447837226?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f338d4a2a&_uhb=1

so how much rwkw?

pulp and e85 would people guess

[Roy]

Easy 270rwkws on 98...easy 310 on corn syrup. Only need 18-19psi

[1400r]

really cheers Roy that makes the decision harder

[Roy]

Reason I say that is with plain 20G compressor I made those numbers with the smaller turbine and smaller 8cm rear housing on an RB20. Though was eternal gate on a 6boost manifold

[Lithium]

So FP are selling their JB HTA for DSMs quite cheap at the moment : http://store.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTDSMFPRED&Category_Code=SP

Haven't quite decided which thread it would suit better, but getting one of these into a Kando housing suitable for a Skyline would be pretty interesting - the FP Red in a TD06H T3 housing could be a crap load of fun, full TD06H 25G power with much better response thanks to the 76HTA compressor.

It's an interesting power than the smallest turbine wheel FP use on their DSM turbos is the TD06, they don't touch the SL2...

[GTScotT]

I have long wondered about the use of an FP DSM item in a Kando housing.

I contacted FP many times asking for a T3 variant but they refused. Told me to build a custom manifold. I also quizzed them on the origins of their 67mm wheel and if it was a TD06H, they denied using a H wheel and would only tell me that it was a 'wheel of their own'.

Quite a PITA if you ask me but I do not doubt that a Kando housing could be made to suit without much effort. Someone SHOULD try it on some sort of 2.5L....... COUGH ARTZ

[Dale FZ1]

Which variety of TDO6 do FP use though?

TBH I'd like to see a few results for the TDO6SL2-20G (throwing in the HG variant with 20.5G upgrade), and the TDO6H-25G.

[Lithium]

Don't hold me to this, but I am pretty sure most of their turbos are just off the shelf turbines and they hide the combos - I believe the 65mm turbines are TD06, and the 67mm ones are the TD06H, and that even means the BB core versions (I had discussed with Rob whether it was possible to make a BB core twin SL2/68HTA type beast for a nut case lowmount RB26 twin setup and he indicated if someone were willing to pay....)

The original famed FP Green was just a TD06 with a Garrett 50-trim T04E compressor, a lot of their combos come down to doing excellent turbine to compressor matches as opposed to reinventing the entire wheel - which is a worthy cause if the result is greater than the sum of the parts.

The FP Green HTA in a Kando TD06 T3 externally gated housing, if I am correct - would be a relatively inexpensive weapon for the performance it could offer, which we know the compressor for is capable of 350-400wkw on E85.

[zebra]

Sounds interesting

Much the reason I got Tao's SL2 with his 10 blade billet comp wheel

[Roy]

LOL, I have one but with the 73HTA compressor. Is a good thing. Tad more responsive than the 20G depsite being 5mm bigger on the compressor and the turbine is a much later model thing with the same basic dimensions as the TD06 65mm turbine but different qty of blades and rake etc.

The L2 turbine simply doesnt have the torque to turn the higher flowing compressors which is why they typically dont touch them. I dont get the fuss over the L2 turbine. I sold mine as numerous L2 setups tuned by the same tuner on the same dyno as my plain TD06-20G got the same result give or take a few kws...if anything mine always pipped the L2s ?!?!?! Maybe on higher flowing setups rather than ashmatic RB20.

If only I can get 10cm housing for it as the 8cm was alight swtich on full boost at something like 3200rpm but nothing over 6,000rpm...and the 12cm made it way too laggy. 10cm is right in the sweet spot...but hard to come across cheaply

[GTScotT]

If only I can get 10cm housing for it as the 8cm was alight swtich on full boost at something like 3200rpm but nothing over 6,000rpm...and the 12cm made it way too laggy. 10cm is right in the sweet spot...but hard to come across cheaply

Kando 10cm T3 housing is $200 delivered.

Send it to Stao and $150 later it will suit your 73HTA unit.

[XKLABA]

Don't hold me to this, but I am pretty sure most of their turbos are just off the shelf turbines and they hide the combos - I believe the 65mm turbines are TD06, and the 67mm ones are the TD06H, and that even means the BB core versions (I had discussed with Rob whether it was possible to make a BB core twin SL2/68HTA type beast for a nut case lowmount RB26 twin setup and he indicated if someone were willing to pay....).

You mean like this

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/281305058842?nav=SEARCH

[XKLABA]

And for that price I am concidering replacing the GT-RSs on my 30

[Super Drager]

You mean like this

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/281305058842?nav=SEARCH

Bloody hell thats some good value. Especially considering ive seen what they can do on a 3L engine!

[XKLABA]

And with the billet wheel and all

[XKLABA]

What would be interesting is the TD05-20g with the 9 blade rear wheel and that 68mm billet compressor

Edit; found em

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/271447837223?cmd=VIDESC

[Lithium]

You mean like this

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/281305058842?nav=SEARCH

Sortof, yes - except the 68HTAs will outflow and generously out-response the 20Gs, hell even the 73HTAs out response the 20Gs... as Roy mentioned earlier.

On an RB30 a pair of 68HTA-SL2s would be ruthless. Well twin 20Gs would be too, but you are getting into "BIG turbo" territory

[Lithium]

What would be interesting is the TD05-20g with the 9 blade rear wheel and that 68mm billet compressor

Edit; found em

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/271447837223?cmd=VIDESC

You know that wheel is well different to the 68HTA? On that note however, the billet 16G or 18G themselves are pretty potent. Will ponder on how worthwhile a change from a GT-RS they would be, however.

[XKLABA]

Sortof, yes - except the 68HTAs will outflow and generously out-response the 20Gs, hell even the 73HTAs out response the 20Gs... as Roy mentioned earlier.

On an RB30 a pair of 68HTA-SL2s would be ruthless. Well twin 20Gs would be too, but you are getting into "BIG turbo" territory

How hard would it be to fit the 68hta wheels to the TD06 if one got the non billet type pair ?

How would the the billet 18g wheel comparing to the 71mm GT wheel of the GT-RS, or even fit the 68hta wheel to the TD05, with the bigger exhaust wheel should let the exhaust side breath out better, even more so for the TD06

What's the difference between 16-18-20g wheels ?

[GTScotT]

XKALABA just be awares that I have known 2 people so far to have poor results from TD06SL2 T25 IWG housings, and have known none to be successful.

The housings work FINE for TD05H application as proven by a few of us, however I personally ONLY have negative results for the same housing used with a TD06SL2 core.

Food for thought