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thought that as well but the reason why the 1/4 isn't as good is because they put a 6 speed in it as well so probable needed an extra shift = time

they spoke the truth about better tech in the single turbo tho considering all those twin options are so old now days

There is not enough of a significant performance difference to justify one over the other, especially when 97.53% of applications are street cars that don't need all that power.

In which case, twin for stock look to avoid police attention is where it's at.

When the problem to me is putting a drain on the economy (there are plenty of Aussies doing this too; get a job or join the army), turning them away does solve the problem. It may not solve your problem which is the compassion for the lives of people you don't know, or theirs being in the wrong place at the wrong time (life sucks), but it solves mine.

We spend just as much turning them away though. So it's not actually helping you at all

Those double page adds in the Herald Sun aren't cheap y'know :P

There is not enough of a significant performance difference to justify one over the other, especially when 97.53% of applications are street cars that don't need all that power.

In which case, twin for stock look to avoid police attention is where it's at.

dunno the dyno said otherwise the single had almost extra 100kw up top end of the revs, I reckon they should of tested the 1/4 with same gearbox and ratios

also would love to see that with a built auto or something down the strip

but yeah completely not worth it, soon as you get pulled over cops with f**k you

We spend just as much turning them away though. So it's not actually helping you at all

Those double page adds in the Herald Sun aren't cheap y'know :P

I find that hard to believe. Turning a boat away is a one off cost. Welcoming it with open arms is a new person in line at centrelink for years, government housing and opportunities denied to people who went through legitimate channels. If you welcome boat people you not only end up with more boat people coming onto your doorstep, you end up deterring people from choosing the proper channels to arrive here when they find out they get queue jumped by cheaper means = even more boats.

If we weren't an island there wouldn't be boat people, just illegal immigrants trying to cross a border because they haven't done the right thing - no nation willingly takes on these.

It also affords greater security as a nation to be discriminant about who enters our country, which is a key issue for me.

I find that hard to believe. Turning a boat away is a one off cost. Welcoming it with open arms is a new person in line at centrelink for years, government housing and opportunities denied to people who went through legitimate channels. If you welcome boat people you not only end up with more boat people coming onto your doorstep, you end up deterring people from choosing the proper channels to arrive here when they find out they get queue jumped by cheaper means = even more boats.

If we weren't an island there wouldn't be boat people, just illegal immigrants trying to cross a border because they haven't done the right thing - no nation willingly takes on these.

It also affords greater security as a nation to be discriminant about who enters our country, which is a key issue for me.

All the PR that goes with it, the offshore detention centers, the money we pay to the PNG govt, the cost of the naval operations, the PR campaign, the cost of returning people etc etc etc etc

dunno the dyno said otherwise the single had almost extra 100kw up top end of the revs, I reckon they should of tested the 1/4 with same gearbox and ratios

also would love to see that with a built auto or something down the strip

but yeah completely not worth it, soon as you get pulled over cops with f**k you

Yeah up top where you don't really need/use the power

E85 and twins is all you need for the street - no single setup will justify its worth over this

so significantly more come in via plane and did prior to the whole Boat people thing.

yet significantly more of the one that arrive via boats are found to be genuine cases of asylum seekers.

oh and the boats have not stopped...there is just a new policy of refusing the media any information on it so you don't know the boats have arrived...

All the PR that goes with it, the offshore detention centers, the money we pay to the PNG govt, the cost of the naval operations, the PR campaign, the cost of returning people etc etc etc etc

All these reduce significantly when they get the hint that Australia isn't the place to sail to

Do you not think if these people could just jump on a plane and fly on in, that they would most likely just do that, rather than risk their lives on a rickety boat?

Actually they have been shown to conduct themselves horribly to get rescued.

Aside from that why is it hamish they have no other way to get here? It's undisputed they spend thousands, tens of thousands to get here via this risky way so you tell me why don't they just get on a plane and come here like everyone else who is legitimately able to? Because they shouldn't be here that's why.

Why destroy documentation? We don't want disease and welfare drains on our society. There's a right and a wrong way to do things, boat people are wrong.

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dunno the dyno said otherwise the single had almost extra 100kw up top end of the revs, I reckon they should of tested the 1/4 with same gearbox and ratios

also would love to see that with a built auto or something down the strip

but yeah completely not worth it, soon as you get pulled over cops with f**k you

Imagine a guy who had a 2.8 stroker and a built auto in a lighter car with a GTX3582

.... 14.7 :(

that be ice these days not booze.

it's cheaper.

you know your government has done a great job when illegal drugs are significantly cheaper than legal things.

thats true for most drugs. but most drugs are garbage in Aus (weed can be grown here but as far as i know everything else is cut to shit quantity < quality). its hard not to be better value than alcohol over here, really.

Actually they have been shown to conduct themselves horribly to get rescued.

Aside from that why is it hamish they have no other way to get here? It's undisputed they spend thousands, tens of thousands to get here via this risky way so you tell me why don't they just get on a plane and come here like everyone else who is legitimately able to? Because they shouldn't be here that's why.

Why destroy documentation? We don't want disease and welfare drains on our society. There's a right and a wrong way to do things, boat people are wrong.

Shame, shame, shame

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lol guy at work got caught selling our bandwidth to overseas companies using some program; I assume for bots to do their web scouring with.

He's lucky the GM was on holidays at the time because word is it would have been a sacking had he not already been reprimanded over it.

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