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Its gay, we can't even write ideas because of people who would troll this forum to see what people could and would do to circumvent their detection methods. I don't understand the concept of how some cars can run 96db and others at 90.

My car idles quietly so I thought ill do a free rev to 5100rpm. There is no way in f**king hell ill pass. I can still hear the engine over the exhaust though.

Saw you on the road the other week, wtf is on your exhaust tips?

there's a ball of stainless steel wool in the tip, held in by some stainless mesh and clamps. gets rid of all the resonance. changed the muffler but it didn't cure it, so I did that.

I know it looks odd, but it worked and didn't affect economy or performance so.. meh

The main reason the price is so large is due to the time it takes to measure, cut and weld things together. What if you've already got an exhaust and want to get it modified to shut it up but maintain its flowing capabilities. Do you run in line mufflers and hot dogs/resonators or just a muffler at the end? Any photos of the exhaust or brand names of the mufflers used?

Yeah you can do that and it's cheaper. Basically it involves playing with mufflers. I have a custom magnaflow crossflow muffler in mine. Also using cross flow mufflers is good without any real restriction. Having a good mid muffler and an end muffler though would easily make it below legal limits (so basically you'd be making a stock style exhaust just all shiny and larger diameter. Otherwise it would be good if someone could make a varex type system but in a mid muffler with a recessed control box covered by a bolt on panel or something. That way it would be near impossible to tell. Especially if your exhaust is tucked up nice and high like mine is. Probably dreaming there though :P

If you're still keen I can post pics?

So basically anyone can get an exemption then? Can anyone think of a reason why Tomic would need to be given an exemption? The only thing that I can think of is because his smoking hot gf wont be seen dead in anything worth under $100,000.

All I can say is that I sympathize with anyone who says that it is not fair for him to get an exemption when most of you other young guys cant. I have no problem with people getting an exemption in certain situations ie. mechanic etc. but I cannot think of a single legitimate reason for Tomic to get one.

Apparently the M3 is given to him by BMW Australia and he is able to drive it for any situation tennis related (work) and for Tennis and BMW related (promotions). So basically I see that he is able to drive the M3 where ever and when ever he likes, especially as now is the Aust Open/Australian Tennis season looks like Tomic should get off all charges if this is true. Also depends how the Judge sees it.

I agree agree mate but its probably not that skinny pin head that they are interested in seeing the car its the blonde piece of hot sex thats sitting in the passengers seat beside him thats gunna sell beamers to cashed up middle aged men :thumbsup:

That's a crock of BS. As if advertising is worthy of an exemption, as if seeing a tool in an M3 is going to sell you an M3.

A woman at work here has an E36 M3 with the rego plates "R3SSOT" (TOSSER Backwards - so when you see it in your rear view mirror you know who's following you)

LOL :no:

And since when did you become NSW Prez Eric? Congrats.

We got my 4 inch exhaust down to 93db in street form with a very restrictive Euro 4 emissions cat. Still too loud for the test but a good effort I think.

Past the test with 84db with a straight through cat and a 'special' flange. Undetectable and 30sec to remove.

So the only way I can get done is by one of those mobile tester things like was on the ACA "news" story. With me only driving the car once in a blue moon I think my chances are almost nil.

Pretty much what we found down here :D

Good to see someone else in the same ball park, with similar results.

Amazing what a baffle does.

Just a baffle plate with a couple small holes drilled into it, effectively making exhaust 1"

Only good for EPA tests and not daily use. Also... "techincally" illegal unless it's welded in. Fat change of finding that out without taking the exhaust of though

If he had an exemption for sponsorship purposes then he is well within his rights to drive the car. I believe stopping him may constitute a restriction of business which would be against the law, similar to the Terry Hill ARL draft case from the 90s. Put yourself in his shoes he only has a limited time to take advantage of his ability to produce money all it takes is a career ending injury or a massive form slump and no more endorsement deals.

<br>are you his lawyer or his mommy?<br>
<br><br>Either one would be nice so I could get that cash.  <img src="http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" class="bbc_emoticon" alt=":)">

<div><br></div><div>Well from a quick google search he has exemption for "reasons pertaining to his career" so that could involve more than just training.</div>

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Problem is if it isn't factory - then valved exhausts are illegal as well. At least down here - so one can expect it to be in NSW, and the video is evidence of this :(

It's really stupid that many models of cars these days have them FACTORY and can be controlled MANUALLY.

Yet to do the same, to pass the same laws, if you or I did it to our cars... It's suddenly illegal.

>_<

It really just needs someone with the staying power (and money) to follow it through the courts and win. Set a precedent and then everyone else launches back at them. It really doesn't make sense a Ferrari can pass ADR with a valve, yet a Skyline cannot. The core EPA laws are from 1992, so very dated.

Also farked that Police can report you to the EPA without even MEASURING your car. They just have to report you based upon suspicion you 'might' be over, rather than actual fact. People down here have been reported when their car has been PARKED and not even running (as the notice tell you the time it was noted).

Really feel sorry for your NSW boys overall... The EPA are a bunch of over powered kents.

Mate, this happened to me.

I called up the manager of the Penrith EPA station and abused the crap out of him. This is guilty until proven innocent behaviour...the expected me to take a day off work, pay the test fee to clear the car.

The guy said they cannot enforce the law/regulation to the Police, it is up to them to enforce it however they see fit, so basically a blank cheque. He also said the cops are advised to book cars that are loud and not 'look/appear' loud but clearly that doesn't mean anything here.

All revenue-raising/keep RTA employees in a job imo.

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