$20K For New/rebuilt Engine. Options?

[a20089]

Mate has a R32 GTR who's been stuffed around by doggy workshops to the point he has no GTR to drive.

He's looking at spending up to $20k on an engine or a rebuild, in all labour etc. Obviously looking for supreme reliability so no second hand parts unless they are obviously just as good as new. Would consider a full engine but ones like CRD's is well over the budget or need.

He only has a standard engine, so will need computer, fuel system, turbo's etc.

Suggestions?

[Sinista32]

Hey John - check this site for a package http://www.lewisengi...category9_1.htm

Saw it on a similar thread recently.

Maybe the $13k package. That will have left over bucks for aftermarket ECU, fuel pump etc..

Plus the out/in costs and consumables

Just a thought.

[KiwiRS4T]

This guy does good work - would post it to you as a short block or put a head on (for extra) if you want:

http://www.hytecheng....nz/p/sale.html

Actually the Lewis Engines might be easier for you if the quality is there.

[kitto]

Hey John - check this site for a package http://www.lewisengi...category9_1.htm

If your mate doesn't want to get stuffed around more I wouldn't recommend this builder.

[a20089]

I would think he would want a australian (prob Can/Syd/Melb) builder with a strong rep for everyday engines. Prefer if the one place could do everything, drop car off, pick car up when done & tuned.

Or just give a listing of the parts and work cost that needs doing and he can source a builder himself.

[DVS JEZ]

The biggest issue with engine builders is the time they take, i have used a few different builders and most have taken up to 4 months to get the engine back.

Worth the wait hen u see theresults but still. Long time.

See if u can get an exchange engine i fthe wait is an issue

[nomnomv8]

^^ See above.

Too often i see guys get screwed around on workshops who decide to take up 5-6 big builds at a time and work on each one when they have some spare time.

Its understandable that projects like this take time but some workshops over do it. Heck ive had a forged rebuild "drive in drive out" done in 3 weeks including modifications to the head, all machining, upgrade to my fuel system (pump, injectors etc). Most people are lucky if they get the same in 3 months !

[dkbcleaner]

I remember speaking to the owner of Lewis engines and at the time he said he can have the motor turned over in 3 weeks. Just ask him how busy he is. But yes workshops that take months coz they deliberately take on to much are f tards!

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

If your mate doesn't want to get stuffed around more I wouldn't recommend this builder.

Why's that? I am planning to get in touch with them sometime in the new year for a motor.. PM me if you don't want to say in public

[usmair]

Hey John - check this site for a package http://www.lewisengi...category9_1.htm

Saw it on a similar thread recently.

Maybe the $13k package. That will have left over bucks for aftermarket ECU, fuel pump etc..

Plus the out/in costs and consumables

Just a thought.

-7 garrets @ 21psi = 370rwkw

surely thats a typo

although its possible on e85

Edited November 14, 2012 by usmair

[Serpandrew]

-7 garrets @ 21psi = 370rwkw

surely thats a typo

although its possible on e85

Probably mixed up the -5's and -7's

-7 garretts @ 21psi 370 rwkw

tomei ARMS twins @14psi 330rwkw

single TO4Z garrett @18 psi 390 rwkw.

-5 garretts @21 psi 340awkw.

[Simon-S14]

Why's that? I am planning to get in touch with them sometime in the new year for a motor.. PM me if you don't want to say in public

ive had mates who have been stuffed around by lewis... go elsewhere.

20k.. get a RIPS engine

[Hadouken]

Im liking the direction of this thread.

So before Ash comes over saying call places or whatever and locks the thread, can we keep it clean and on the path of being useful.

[vorse]

Probably mixed up the -5's and -7's

levin boy is making 350 on -9s on pump 98

Edited November 15, 2012 by vorse

[Sinista32]

NOTE: I haven't used LEWIS. So it's not an endorsement, just seemed to fit the requirement.

CRD did my build and yeah over $20k. I'm extremely happy with the result.

Not so happy with other business issue things and elapsed time for the rebuild. But hey - you get that and you just have to work through it.

330awkws at 18 psi on -7's (ESP tuned)

Could ask ESP (Qbyn) to get a price, timframe and make a judgement call if your comfortable.

I haven't had one built there either (like most others they would subbie some of the work), however I get them to do all my other work.

Reasonable on price and have met all their commitments to me.

Was a differen't story a year or so ago. They just overbooked and under deliverd.

Changes in the shop staff has made a big difference in my opinion.

Not had a bad experience since. *touch wood*

About to go spend another $5k with them.

[Zackery]

Good thread to read, and when spending 20k on an engine, have a few good talks to your tuner. No half an hour later he has a 20k job sitting on his lap.

Talk to the guy building the engine, ask how many Rb's he's built. Or if he's been rebuilding ford's forever..

The most helpful guy will be the bloke actually rebuilding it. *not the guy at the front desk selling you shit*

Do yourself a favour go direct to the guy your dealing with, don't get a workshop who gives the job to someone else. It will take longer in the end. and you may not *not saying you won't* be happy with the end result.

Just my few cents from experience. worth the hassle if you want quality results "you" are happy with.

[Robi33]

What about Will at JHH Racing in Brisbane? He is looking after my motor.

[a20089]

Thanks for the replies. I'll let him decide where exactly he goes.

More after suggestions for the build in the way of parts and the work needed. The built engine of "lewis" for 13K was something that was good to read.

I'm sure people have spent around this amount for a rebuilt/new engine, how did it go, what would you do differently?

[STATUS]

The biggest issue with engine builders is the time they take, i have used a few different builders and most have taken up to 4 months to get the engine back.

Worth the wait hen u see theresults but still. Long time.

See if u can get an exchange engine i fthe wait is an issue

fark... i get the shits over 2 weeks... never Waited more than 3.

[black bnr32]

If I could do it again, I'd seriously think about running a motor with stock internals. Beat the crap out of it, blow it up, rinse, repeat.

Dealing with engine builders generally sucks, and people generally overbuild motors for no good reason. What do you truly get with a built motor? piece of mind?

Edited November 16, 2012 by black bnr32